Eating out is already so expensive, every menu item is like at least $17 dollars nowadays (live in the city).

I’d rather give money to a homeless guy. The psychological warfare and the bullshit socioeconomic arguments for tipping are unconvincing for me. Leave me alone. Thank you.

It used to be simple. You set the price, we pay it for services and food. Now there’s a social expectation to give more? Fuck off. Fuck right off, don’t give me bullshit like “oh they don’t make a profit” well that’s their fucking problem. I paid, I paid no less than what was necessary, I shouldn’t feel bad about myself.

Sorry about the rant. I love eating out. But I hate feeling like a tightwad asshole for not tipping. Don’t get me wrong, I mostly tip like 99% of the time. I just didn’t tip today. The food took a long time to come out, they didn’t give us hot sauce, I had to go to the front to pay instead of the server handing me the bill.

I hate this, I hate what the tipping economy has become. It should’ve been simple.

The guy that served us was also at the register next to the cashier after I tapped 0% in the tipping screen. It was a mid-sized vietnamese place and I can’t help but feel that they were talking shit behind my back. I know they probably weren’t. I felt like I stole from them even after I payed in full.

Edit: I’m also neurodivergent and tipping just feels like extortion with extra steps. I know there’s a social dick measuring contest of “oh i only tip AT LEAST 70%” that people with looser wallets and more disposable income engage in. I have no such luxury, and tipping for me feels, well, more money i just have to pay. For no reason. I don’t even know where it goes in the end, if i tip through credit card (I make it a point to only tip in cash and hide it under my plate).

Fuck tipping. Fuck societal expectations of tipping. It should be something you do for exceptional service, not something you need to do because you’ll be shamed for not doing it.

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    Wow, what a great argument!

    Just don’t eat out, with no customers around the money to pay these poor workers’ salaries will certainly appear out of thin air.

    Don’t blame the OP for doing what most of the civilized world outside of USA does, which is paying the exact amount on the receipt.

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      If you participate in the system without paying the tip you only hurt the employee.

      They’re not just acting like the rest of the world, the rest of the world has better wage laws. They have a different system.

      Yes, not participating in the system will hurt the same employees, as not tipping does, but not buying fast food also hurts the employers. Unlike buying without tipping which, again, only hurts the workers.

      Once more, if you don’t agree with tipping, not tipping won’t do anything to the system. The only way forward is to not participate. If you think non participation will do nothing, why harm the worker?

      This is alot of moralizing to justify a selfish behavior. Just be honest, you don’t care what what happens to the worker as long as you can get your luxary of fast food slightly cheaper

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        Thank you for succinctly summing up this whole argument, tipping sucks but in industries like hospitality in the United States if you take the service and don’t tip you are in fact hurting people because of your selfishness. Restaurant owners and groups do not give a single fuck if you eat there and don’t tip, they will find replacements for those who leave. Most servers are working two or more jobs to make ends meet unless they work in really nice restaurants with bougie regulars.

        If you want to boycott the culture stop eating out, otherwise you’re just a cheap asshole that thinks they are better than restaurant staff

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          Maybe the hospitality services relies on absolute sheep like you and everyone else to believe that not tipping is selfish and hurting their workers so they, the actual people that are hurting their workers by not giving them a living wage, gets a free pass and can justify not giving them a living wage because they live off of tips?

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            Such a great ally you are

            Edit: I’m blocking your ass because you are the pinnacle of fake ass leftism, you talk a big game but you don’t actually give a fuck about others in any meaningful capacity. You’re a joke