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minus-squaredisguy_ovahea@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up37·12 days agoEnglish is weird. It can be understood through tough thorough thought, though.
minus-squaresamus12345@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up17·12 days agoHow many ways can “ough” be pronounced in English? through - oo tough - uff though - oh thought - ah cough - off bough - ow Any others?
minus-squareZagorath@aussie.zonelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up13·12 days ago thought - ah ? thought - or; if you pronounce it the UK/Aus/NZ way thought - o; if you pronounce it with a general American accent As for others: thorough - uh (schwa) hiccough - up
minus-squaresamus12345@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up5·12 days agoI’m referring to American English specifically. “o” would make me think it’s pronounced “thoat”, but it’s the sound I meant. “thorough” rhymes with “oh” in Standard American English. “Hiccough” is a good one. I always hated that spelling and prefer “hiccup” for that reason.
minus-squarezarkanian@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkarrow-up3·11 days ago “Hiccough” is a good one. I always hated that spelling and prefer “hiccup” for that reason. TIL those are both pronounced the same way. (Gaol/jail is worse, though.)
minus-squareZagorath@aussie.zonelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·12 days agoYeah o on its own is definitely unclear. I meant o as in “cot”. (As in the American cot-caught merger.) I feel “ah” would be a better shorthand for the vowel in “palm” or “bra”, or “car” in non-rhotic accents.
minus-squarezarkanian@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkarrow-up5·11 days agoYes, English is weird, but this word still breaks rules. “Gh” (pronounced “f”) is never at the beginning of a word, and “ti” (pronounced “sh”) is never at the end.
minus-squaredisguy_ovahea@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up4·11 days agoOh, you’re absolutely correct. I think it’s just meant to poke fun at the complexity of the language.
minus-squareSkua@kbin.earthlinkfedilinkarrow-up4·12 days agoA very relevant poem, The Chaos by Dutch writer Gerard Nolst Trenité https://ncf.idallen.com/english.html
English is weird. It can be understood through tough thorough thought, though.
How many ways can “ough” be pronounced in English?
through - oo
tough - uff
though - oh
thought - ah
cough - off
bough - ow
Any others?
?
thought - or; if you pronounce it the UK/Aus/NZ way
thought - o; if you pronounce it with a general American accent
As for others:
I’m referring to American English specifically. “o” would make me think it’s pronounced “thoat”, but it’s the sound I meant.
“thorough” rhymes with “oh” in Standard American English.
“Hiccough” is a good one. I always hated that spelling and prefer “hiccup” for that reason.
TIL those are both pronounced the same way. (Gaol/jail is worse, though.)
Yeah o on its own is definitely unclear. I meant o as in “cot”. (As in the American cot-caught merger.)
I feel “ah” would be a better shorthand for the vowel in “palm” or “bra”, or “car” in non-rhotic accents.
Yes, English is weird, but this word still breaks rules. “Gh” (pronounced “f”) is never at the beginning of a word, and “ti” (pronounced “sh”) is never at the end.
Oh, you’re absolutely correct. I think it’s just meant to poke fun at the complexity of the language.
A very relevant poem, The Chaos by Dutch writer Gerard Nolst Trenité https://ncf.idallen.com/english.html