WHAT

  • Former U.S. President Donald J. Trump was shot at a rally in PA.

TRUMPS STATEMENT

“I want to thank The United States Secret Service, and all of Law Enforcement, for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in Butler, Pennsylvania. Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the Rally who was killed, and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. It is incredible that such an act can take place in our Country. Nothing is known at this time about the shooter, who is now dead. I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening. GOD BLESS AMERICA!”

WHAT WE THINK WE KNOW SO FAR

  • gunman is dead
  • Trump “is fine”
  • one attendee is dead
  • another attendee is in critical condition

News Sources

    • SleezyDizasta@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      That’s not a justification for more violence, two wrongs don’t make a right. He was wrong for doing what he did and this is wrong as well. This is because political violence in it’s entirety is wrong. Jesus, do people not have principles anymore? Seeing all the supposedly moral people turn into Q anon level conspiracy theorists who condone violence is depressing.

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          2 months ago

          But these are vastly different situations. For the record, all three of these individuals used political violence to achieve political aims, that’s one of the reasons why history doesn’t remember them fondly. The constantly killed people they didn’t like under the justification that it’s for the greater good or self defense. Saddam Hussien did that when he genocided the Kurds in Iraq and the invasion Kuwait, Hitler did that with the Holocaust and the invasion of Europe, and Bin Laden did that with 9/11 and the other terrorist attacks he launched.

          Keep in mind, we actually have a justice system in this country that actually works. If we want Trump to face justice it has to go through the justice where he faces trial and is found guilty based on evidence… which has already happened btw for one of his crimes. That’s how justice is handled in a civil democracy. We can’t have randos going on self righteous terrorism crusades killing political candidates they don’t like. If someone tried assassinate Biden, would you being say the same? Probably not, and rightfully so, but the terrorist who tried to kill would be making similar justifications to what you’re trying to make right now. The very idea is wrong.

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              2 months ago

              The US invaded Iraq under GW Bush on a lie about WMD’s. Killed Saddam and countless Iraqis, including journalists, for nothing.

              The US invaded Afghanistan rather than negotiate with its ruling power to hand over Bin Laden, then didn’t get their hands on him for another decade even though the US won the war and took over the country from day 1. 20+ years of bloody occupation later you lost the war and the Taliban is back in power. Another pointess war started with deception.

              Don’t get me started on Vietnam.

              You guys have some twisted idea of democracy where the ‘Democrats’ don’t even elect their own candidates.

              Please stop exporting democracy. The world doesn’t want your perverse version.

              Hitler killed himself btw.

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                The US invaded Afghanistan rather than negotiate with its ruling power to hand over Bin Laden

                To be fair, the US did try to negotiate with Afghanistan to extradite Bin Laden and the Taliban refused.

      • retrospectology@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Tell me, should we have turned the other cheek during WWII? Two wrongs don’t make a right after all, right?

        • SleezyDizasta@lemmy.world
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          We didn’t join WWII because the Nazis were bad, we joined because Japan attacked Pearl Harbor and then Hitler declared war on the US.

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              Really? You don’t realize that the US didn’t join a war that started in 1939 until 1941 when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor … so was only part of the war for less than 4 years?

              Wow!

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                You inferred something about Nazis, and now what you’re saying makes no sense as a response to what I’ve been asking you.

                I’ll put it more clearly so you can actually give an answer: When Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, you’re saying we should’ve turned the other cheek?

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      How many deaths did it result in? Cause there is only one death on Jan 6 that has ever been attributed to Jan 6.

      I don’t disagree that he incited the insurrection, but making false claims doesn’t help show that the left is the party of honesty.

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        Why are you pretending like right-wing violence isn’t the literal leading domestic security threat?

        Have you been living under a rock since 2016?

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            Well, yeah, I mean, we can go back a hundred years, conservatives will always be pushing violence and division whatever era you look at since they can’t hold power without it, I mostly mean it’s come out fully into the open since 2016. The mask dropped off completely and they’re no longer even pretending to be anything but the Confederacy 2.0.

    • DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      This shit was never here before because it’s likely CYA mode for Lemmy because feds could come sniffing here if copycat incidents occur.