• Nougat@fedia.io
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    2 months ago

    The only way that would be relevant would be if there was a determination that the shooter was trying to do some kind of ad hoc false flag thing, as opposed to writing his own name into history. Everything we know at this point indicates that the latter is true, and the former is not.

    Whether Trump’s injury was the result of a fired projectile or a piece of shrapnel, the injury was caused by an assassination attempt.

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      2 months ago

      It’s also relevant because one of Trump’s current campaign statements is that he “took a bullet for America” which may be another lie.

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        2 months ago

        It would certainly neuter that (over)statement, but I honestly wouldn’t go as far as to call that one a “lie” without some indication that he knew that it wasn’t a bullet he was hit by. I don’t think that even a reasonable person wouldn’t come to the conclusion that “Shots were fired, at me, now my ear is bleeding all over my face” as “I was hit by a bullet.”

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        2 months ago

        I disagree.

        The sheer number of lies he tells, what difference is one more? Especially an inconsequential one?

        We’re all fairly sure it wasn’t the bullet, but glass, or shrapnel or whatever, but that buries the lede.

        The point here is whether it was an assassination attempt or a false flag attempt (personally I think assassination) and that trumps own hateful rhetoric has created such a ridiculous scenario where this shit happens.

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          Because it’s always important to point out the hypocrisy of his fake patriotic bullshit. Every lie should be pointed out, to everyone who will listen.

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            But then you lose the bigger point that his rhetoric and horse shit has lead us here.

            You’re too zoomed in.

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      2 months ago

      except if the shooter was just shooting into the crowd and hit like a railing or something then it wasn’t an “assassination attempt” it was a mass shooting.

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        2 months ago

        Frankly, it could be a mass-shooting anyway, simply one that had a high-profile figure as one of the targets. Apparently he had explosives in his car and some sort of remote detonation mechanism, so it was clearly about more than just Trump alone.

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        The grenade failed to detonate. Although original reports indicated that the grenade was not live, it was later revealed that it was. After Arutyunian pulled the pin and threw the grenade, it hit a girl, cushioning its impact. The red handkerchief remained wrapped around the grenade, and it prevented the striker lever from releasing.

        No mention of it being “a training grenade [which] could not fire.” Source?

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      ad hoc false flag

      Dont be in such a rush to rule this out lol. Ad hoc false flag should be Trump’s middle names

      He’s always been a real ad war hoc