• Lemminary@lemmy.world
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    vagaries

    I’ll pretend your choice of words isn’t low-key confrontational and dismissive like every other comment on this site. I also hope that you’re replying in good faith and not just mocking me because you’re clinging to what you want to believe, and that I’m not the anti-pot boogeyman for replying with what you asked. We’re adults, right.

    But I have some questions.

    How are the pharmacokinetics not relevant to the conversation? Maybe to someone who knows pharma. But for everyone else, this is the context needed to realize how vastly different metabolic and physiological differences affect other species so that they don’t mistake thinking that “ultra-mega-concentrates” like you said are the only way to cause harm because that’s how humans behave. That tells me that you either don’t know much pharma or you’re vastly underplaying the effects, so I had to reel it in.

    Also, just because I asked Consensus doesn’t devalue the research. Everything links back to the abstracts so please focus on those or link to your own. I know AI hate is wild here but, in this case, it’s accurate.

    One of the hallmarks of drug poisoning is literally breathing suppression and hypothermia. When was the last time you felt that smoking pot? Are these symptoms not valid, do you have some other insight, or what’s going on?

    evidence you posted supports my claims that it behaves pretty much the same way it does in humans

    Read carefully. It does not.

    dosages should be adjusted for the body weight of a cat

    And how will you do that? There’s no therapeutic index. Not a single longitudinal study of cannabis consumption exists for pets to say that a few blows in their face depending on your mood that day won’t cause long-lasting harm. You’re gambling your cat’s health. As they say, lack of evidence is not evidence of absence. The first case is a great example of a cat showing extended periods of altered state far longer than they last in a human. It’s one night of rest for you vs two weeks of recovery for that cat at the vet, and that’s just an acute intoxication. And the fact that acute intoxication was even achieved in a cat is a clear sign there’s a lower tolerance for them.

    And I will add that I find it contradictory that you demand evidence but simultaneously expose your pets despite the evidence and lack thereof.

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      So, two things unrelated to the actual topic being discussed.

      I’ll pretend your choice of words isn’t low-key confrontational and dismissive like every other comment on this site

      It’s entirely possible to be correct and do it in such a way that invites confrontation and dismissal.

      If it seems like everyone apart from you is confrontational and dismissive, perhaps it’s time to consider additional perspectives on why that might be happening.

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        It doesn’t escape me, but what part of what I’ve said has invited confrontation or dismissal? I’m asking honestly. It’s grating that it keeps happening and I keep telling people to stop. Hyperbole aside, it’s frequent enough that I can see a pattern of people starting petty arguments trying to win and throwing low punches instead of clarifying what is being said and why. Like, I don’t even want to argue.

        additional perspectives on why that might be happening

        Meaning what, it’s also me? lol If I’m the one telling people to stop and act like adults and that gets 180° turns in behavior, what does that say to you?

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          It’s kind of baffling they are arguing exposing their cat to drugs is fine, for what? They can’t know that’s safe. Why take the risk? Might as well let them drink some wine while we are at it eh?

          They are arguing on emotion more than anything. Nothing to do about that.

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            I didn’t argue any of those things. But go ahead and put words in my mouth since it appears to make you feel validated.

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              So you think exposing your cat to drugs isn’t fine? You said you do just that though, so I would like if you clarified the difference. The last point of the wine was not your words, but my own. I will own that. I will ask the simple question, why do you choose to expose your cat to cannabis?

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      You’re being unusually argumentative, and this argument with you is extraordinarily tiresome.

      You haven’t presented any evidence that any harm is being done, and you’re over complicating this argument Beyond any point that is necessary. That’s why I’m being dismissive. You continue assert that there is something wrong when you have presented no evidence that supports that claim. In fact, you constantly evade that claim.

      It’s not up to me to prove your claim, it’s up to you, and you haven’t. In fact, the evidence you did present supports my position. The fact that you can’t seem to understand that tells me that you’re more interested in arguing than you are in accepting facts. Also, that at this point, you’re probably just trolling me. Also, that I should probably just block you and move on with my day.

      I’m gonna stick by Hitchens or razor on this one.