• AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net
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    2 months ago

    If anyone wants help going vegan, I’d be happy to help. Even if it’s infeasible to get enough people in the world to stop eating animals fast enough to avert the next pandemic, there is evidence that people who eat plant-based have better outcomes from getting sick, as well as just getting sick less in general. Not to mention getting animal products out of your homes reduces one of the vectors through which pathogens can spread. So at the very least you’d be giving yourself your own best chance (just keep in mind it’s no replacement for vaccinations!)

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=047C-mMQpSE

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      there is evidence that people who eat plant-based have better outcomes from getting sick

      Sounds like a steak side salad would be beneficial.

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        No, no it would not be beneficial. That would be the opposite of beneficial (unless it’s plant-based steak).

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            Eating the flesh of an animal is not good for anyone. It’s not good for the animal who was abused their whole life and murdered. It’s not good for the environment. It’s not good for all the beings who get sick from pathogens because of it. And it’s not even good for the human animal who consumes the other animal’s flesh.

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              Eating the flesh of an animal is not good for anyone.

              It tastes nice and is a source of protein, iron and other minerals.

              It’s not good for the animal who was abused their whole life and murdered.

              True in some cases.

              It’s not good for the environment.

              True in most cases.

              It’s not good for all the beings who get sick from pathogens because of it.

              True. But pathogens also exist on plants. Which is why food standards exist that cover both.

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    Gee, maybe this is why “why is my dog/cat bleeding from the eyes” and similar Google searches have been trending around industrial scale meat processing hotspots for months.

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        Google trends. Ask it questions like “why is my cat bleeding” or “why is my dog bleeding” and look at trends and localization over the last 3mo. Search in both English and Spanish to capture data from native Spanish speakers (the bulk of the workforce at meat processing plants) and their extended communities.

        Google h5n1 symptoms in cats and dogs (bleeding from the eyes, ass, high fever, pink eye, seizures, etc) and come up with queries that everyday people might Google (like: “why is my dog bleeding from his privates” because Americans can’t say “anus”) and go from there.

        I haven’t really kept track of all of the queries we looked through over the last couple of months, this was more my SO’s thing. Epidemiologist Twitter probably has some good data too.

        Off the top of my head pink eye in dogs, cats with seizures, cats bleeding from their eyes, dogs bleeding from the ass, high fevers, etc all had pretty narrow localization around major industrialized meat packing plants or industrial scale livestock farming.

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          data scientist here

          Have you found those that wish to hear that which nearly no one else does?

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              That’s almost a banger line

              Thanks. I didn’t give it much poetic consideration. It’s probably not even my line…For example, I’ll turn my presentation off for the rest of this post.

              what do you mean?

              All sucks so bad that one doesn’t have to be Neo, needs no data science career or Google trends to reason their way to the same root truth of why such is so: True happiness comes from a sense contentment which must be achieved through the cultivation of altruism, of love and compassion and elimination of ignorance, selfishness and greed.

              I believe all suffering is caused by ignorance. People inflict pain on others in the selfish pursuit of their happiness or satisfaction. And I believe that there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular, but he must take it because conscience tells them it is right.

              While the individual can be intelligent and wise - people are stupid, and you know it. From each according to their ability and to each according to their need. Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us also lay aside every weight and sin which clings so closely, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us.

              However, I’m invisible simply because people refuse to see me. When they approach me they see only my surroundings, themselves or figments of their imagination, indeed, everything and anything except me. Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

              Have you found those that wish to hear that which nearly no one else does?

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    Not a fan of how many innocent people will die from another pandemic, but I don’t think I’m going to be upset if the anti-vaxxers select themselves out of the population.

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      This stuff will make us all go vegan. With a mortality rate of 50%, there won’t be any anti-vaxxers as everyone will be scared for their lives.

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        This isn’t how people work I think. Instead you will have people who have been primed by prior experience that their ignorance worked out. EG people who by dint of age and health only ever had <1/10th of 1% of dying from covid didn’t get vaccinated and had covid 3 times and are fine LEARNED that vaccinating isn’t important.

        If there is a 50% mortality event they will have learned that their shit works long enough to catch it and die while listening to their facebook groups tell them they just need to take some vitamin C. They’ll keep telling each other its all a scam, just normal flue, someone will chime in that they’ve already had it months prior to this being even possible. They’ll shit talk until they die in their houses.

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          The stupid “I did it and I’m fine” line of thinking makes for a really convincing argument for a lot of people. It’s messed up.

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    It’s almost like exploiting and killing trillions of sentient beings just so you can have five minutes of mouth pleasure is an inexcusably shitty thing to do and has its consequences. Let’s keep it up /s

    Seriously, most zoonotic diseases and antibiotic resistance could be prevented entirely if we’d simply stop doing the most absurdly cruel things to animals. You should be vegan and be lobbying your governments to end subsidies to animal agriculture and replacing it with subsidies for other things we can eat.