• Gsus4@mander.xyz
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    anybody know how to distinguish Iranian, russian and Chinese disinfo efforts? They have different flavours and I see them out there, but don’t know which is which. Sure, it is stoking division, but some lean more on anti-NATO, some on anti-israel and some on “western decadence” in general…

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      well, for other security research, they often rely on things like timestamps (even state sponsored hackers have nights and weekends), typos that only make sense with certain keyboards, and who is targeted. For example, Russian keyboarss don’t have the : symbol, so the :) emoji is usually typed as “))”, which can be a dead giveaway that the hacker uses a a Slavic language keyboard.

      However, let’s not pretend for a second that disinformation and propaganda are only pushed by the listed countries. I’m old enough to remember when lies pushed by the Bush administration to the New York Times that were used to manufacturer public consent for the Iraq war.

      Or how NATO promises they’re supporting Ukraine out of the goodness of their hearts and that it has absolutely nothing to do with their abundant natural gas supplies that are currently being sold off to oil companies based in NATO countries. (Slava Ukraini, for the record, but fuck the oil companies).

      https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/naftogaz-held-talks-with-big-us-oil-companies-about-ukraine-energy-projects-ft-2023-04-21/

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        Seems like OP is such a but, notice how he immediately turned “but West is even worse, they should just let Russia start unprovoked war on their borders”. BTW they love to work in pairs to help validate the message, and that’s the case with The other 2 week old account.

        Also: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81gVk1cpHCL.jpg

        And Ukraine relatively recently discovered the gas on their land. They had no time to build any infrastructure, because Russia invaded shortly after in 2014. Also Russia is occupying those territories since then, so nothing is being sold even if they wanted to.

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          lol. nah, homey. it’s a 7 month old account from the reddit exodus. Ukraine discovered natural gas in Crimea in 2014, threatening to box out Russia from the EU energy market, which is why it’s an existential threat for Russia if Ukraine pivots west. Consequently, Russia invaded. Here is a Wikipedia article that discusses the Shell-backed exploration of the gas field off the coast of Crimea.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skifska_gas_field

          Who the fuck said anything about supporting Russia? Genocidal regimes focused on the extraction of fossile fuels are fucked-- whether you’re talking Saudi Arabia, The US, or Russia. For the love of god, please educate yourself about the hypocrisy of US foreign policy. I’m really sorry that you can’t see beyond the binary worldview you’ve hinted to here.

          If I was a pro-Russia bot, why would I post this on an article, I posted, mocking Iranian hackers?

          Do you not realize that Iran is selling drones to Russia to bomb Ukraine?

          Do you not realize that Iran only has said drone technology because they captured a US drone flying over Pakistan and reverse engineered it? Seems like if the ill-informed war of terror never happened, Iran wouldn’t have drones and Russia wouldnt be using them in Ukraine to murder civilians. The world is way more complicated than the black and white worldview you’ve alluded to.

          Fuck Putin, fuck the us department of defense and fuck the police (just for good measure). Is that clear enough for you?

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          Unless you think Russia is capable of hacking google maps…

          Here’s an oil field owned by Halliburton in Ukraine. https://g.co/kgs/F7e761g

          For those of us not old enough to remember, Halliburton got famous for being deeply connected to George W. Bush’s Vice President, Dick Cheney, and profited massively from the Iraq war.

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          Lol. you should check out that keyboard again. It’s a Qwerty AND Cyrillic keyboard which clearly shows the the Cyrillic letter ж uses the same key as the ;/: button on qwerty.

          In before this person uses the fact that I know how to type a Unicode character as “proof” of my bot-ness.

          I think you’ll find my post history about Linux, volunteering with refugees, and pictures of museums to be consistent with my anti-war stance and offer a hint as to why I know a bunch of historical facts.