• gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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      3 months ago

      And then Harris doesn’t get elected because AIPAC dumps a metric fuckload of cash into Trumps campaign.

      Look dude, I fucking hate it too, but you consistently (as in, in every post I’ve seen you make on this topic) ignore the context in a very obviously willful manner. In the system as it stands now, money plays a disgustingly HUGE role in US politics. Pretending it’s not is a recipe for letting Trump win, at which point he will shortly dispatch a squadron of B-52s to carpet bomb Gaza and the West Bank into Graceland (edit: lol what the fuck autocorrect) gravel and start construction on the new Trump Tower Gaza. So like, you know, maybe pull your head out of your ass and try to understand that there’s at least a little bit of nuance to the situation. It is horrible in a humanitarian sense that we have to account for that risk in this way, but it’s going to be far worse if we don’t.

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        3 months ago

        And then Harris doesn’t get elected because AIPAC dumps a metric fuckload of cash into Trumps campaign.

        So the Democratic Party is AIPAC’s party and we no longer have a representative democracy in this country.

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            3 months ago

            Didn’t say they weren’t. Thing is, that means that our only two options serve the interests of a man who is committing genocide to keep himself in power, and prioritize those interests over ours.

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              They serve his interests for now.

              I’m low key cautiously optimistic that Harris is going to start shifting away from just giving Israel shitloads of bombs. She knows it’s a bad look, and she knows a lot of her supporters are pretty fucking pissed at Biden over his handling of the situation. She has a chance, once she takes office, to make a meaningful change to policy in that area, and I hope she does.

              I think that may be why AIPAC is being so bold in this election cycle: they can see the writing on the wall, and they know they’ve pissed off a significant portion of one entire side of our political establishment… and the other side - the one that doesn’t mind that they’re carpet-bombing brown people - has neo-Nazis in it. So that’s a bit of a quandary they’ve put themselves in. It’s really incredible, in a geopolitical sense (because it’s not just America in which this shift is happening), because they’ve basically just thrown the vast majority of international sympathy and goodwill they previously had onto a bonfire and lit the fucker up.

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                3 months ago

                They serve his interests for now.

                I see no evidence at all of any interest whatsoever in stopping.

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                    The first paragraph I ignored is rank speculation about what might happen once no pressure to stop selling weapons can be exerted.

                    The second paragraph is predicated on the guy who is already committing genocide suddenly caring about what the international community thinks instead of just trying to maintain his hold on power with the unconditional assistance of a servile US government.

                    Neither is evidence of any interest in ceasing support for Netanyahu’s genocide.

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      3 months ago

      Or else what?

      That’s where you guys always trip up. What’s the next step to these threats?

      The only party who hasn’t supported and signed on to the ceasefire agreements is Israel. Go protest over there ffs.