• RunningInRVA@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Fine but those situations are not the same as “angry and noncooperative citizen disobeying my request and I can no longer see what is happening inside the vehicle.”

    I would argue that this is actually the correct situation for a police officer to feel more concerned for their safety.

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      2 months ago

      The fact that we need to be concerned for our safety at all while “disobeying” a cop is proof that they act too aggressively and with almost no accountability. Cops can start a gang and murder you and no one bats a fucking eye

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      2 months ago

      I dunno, I’m way less terrified of the guy with a 40k watch in a 150k car than I would be in any other situation. Unless I was super jealous that this black dude was rich, and he didn’t show immediate respect to me. Then I might pull him out of his car despite having everything I need to write the citation and being in 0 danger literally surrounded by other officers.

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      2 months ago

      Why would a guy in a McLaren, who already gave you his ID, raise suspicions that he might be trying to harm you by simply rolling his window up? This cop mentality that everyone is seconds away from ambushing them like they’re in Fallujah circa 2002 is absurd and drives a lot of this police brutality and overreaction. Don’t forget that these are paid professional government employees. It’s not the citizen’s job to coddle police and play into their own personal paranoia and delusions just to avoid getting beaten or shot.