The letter posted on Israeli journalist Amit Segal channel to 184,000 followers says that “the nation of Israel will stand up bravery to strike at its enemies,” according to a translation of the Hebrew. It goes on to justify targeting sites even “when the enemy hides behind a human shield.”

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    It’s important to acknowledge that these rabbis are fucking assholes and also that quite a few rabbis didn’t sign this letter (it was signed by dozens of rabbis, which isn’t a very large proportion). Religious leaders are people just like the rest of us and while they usually contain a larger proportion of empathic and “good” people… that certainly isn’t a universal rule (Source: grew up in Boston in the 90s).

    I hope their congregations see them for the assholes they are and kick them to the fucking curb.

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      Quite a lot of palestinians aren’t murderous terrorists either, but somehow they’re getting bombed regardless.

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      Yes, I read a report of a rabbi asking Biden for a ceasefire. This only comes to prove that we should try not to generalise people and that there are rotten apples in every nation!

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    Newsweek is getting to the front page way too fucking much. And the community is eating it up like it’s a reliable source.

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    Another religion of peace. Judaism. Why are all abrahamic religions such a scourge on this planet?

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      Well dharmic religions aren’t peachy either. Have you seen what Buddhists are doing to Rohingya in Myanmar? They just lack Israel’s military might but they are on par in terms of brutality.

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      As i understood it from the reading of the bible, the god of Moses and Abraham is kind of a violent prick, this is all well in alignment with biblical old testament god; just lay waste to anyone who has slighted Yahweh’s chosen people. To answer somewhat literally: To be disgusted by this you must first reject that narrative which is currently taught as foundational to the bible

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      Sometimes a pat on the back from god is all you need to keep committing war crimes. Chosen people choosing people.

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      Actually, it’s probably quite pious of them. Old Testament God was not really one for mercy and was pretty big on obliterating your foes.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    An Israeli journalist has shared a letter he says has been signed by dozens of rabbis which states there would be no religious prohibition for Israel’s forces to strike a hospital that contained “the enemy.”

    The missive, posted on Monday on the Telegram channel of prominent media figure Amit Segal, is addressed to Israeli Prime Minister Benyamin Netanyahu and mentions by name the Al-Shifa hospital in Gaza City which is the strip’s largest medical complex.

    Israel has sent its forces into Hamas-controlled Gaza following weeks of air and artillery strikes and has vowed to wipe out Hamas amid a growing civilian death toll and desperate humanitarian crisis as food, fuel, drinking water and medicine run short.

    Israel has said that key Hamas operations are taking place within underground tunnels below Al-Shifa, Gaza’s largest hospital, as well as Al-Quds, which has been explicitly ordered several times to evacuate.

    But the World Health Organization Director General Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus has said that under international humanitarian law, “healthcare must always be protected,” as he urged Israel to rescind its evacuation order against Al-Quds Hospital.

    Mads Gilbert, a Norwegian doctor, told the outlet Democracy Now in an article published on Monday that in the 16 years he had worked on and off at Al-Shifa hospital, he had seen no evidence that it was a Hamas command center.


    The original article contains 475 words, the summary contains 224 words. Saved 53%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    Fuck anyone who uses religion to excuse murder. The world would be a better place without your “gods”.

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    US Troops had this same dilemma during WWII. Germans housed in hospitals and churches had to be removed. They were and sometimes at high cost.

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    If there really is a military command center built beneath a hospital? Yeah, sure. And you should blame the people who put it there.

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    @TinyPizza

    You always talk about Geneva Conventions / International Humanitarian Law: If someone hides behind civilians, even in hospitals, then that building is a legitimate target. This IS actual International Humanitarian Law.

    Even if you don’t like it.

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      from the article:

      Mads Gilbert, a Norwegian doctor, told the outlet Democracy Now in an article published on Monday that in the 16 years he had worked on and off at Al-Shifa hospital, he had seen no evidence that it was a Hamas command center.
      He said that if as Israel claims, it is a mixed military-civilian target, “the civilian precautions take priority over the military. So, in accordance with the Geneva Convention, you can’t bomb hospitals, unless they have very clear military functions.”

      I just call things murder and war crimes. As @Riccosuave pointed out, you seem much more concerned with trying to justify these actions. Please do let the doctor in that hospital know as well so he can plan his (military?) funeral accordingly.

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              I already told you I go to therapy. I’m unashamed for that as anyone should be.

              I like that you’ve given me a pet name but it just feels forced and inorganic. Like if we went to a party together and you said it, I don’t know if I would get that your talking to me. Can we workshop it and then we’ll do yours?

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      That applies if it is two nations engaged at war. Israel is at war with the terrorist group Hamas, not the state of Palestine.

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    It is really weird to see some of the commentators get riled up about the Hamas Israel war, while being completely UNTOUCHED for instance by the war in Syria.

    What exactly makes the Hamas Israel war different for you?

    Is it, because it flamed up just recently?

    Is it, because you are personally involved somehow because of friends / family?

    Have you always had strong beliefs for/against Israel?

    Something else?

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          You want to know the difference between a (arab spring) civil war against a self imposed monarchy and a campaign of retribution genocide that is attempting to push an enclosed majority civilian population into a neighboring country under threat of annihilation?