• diprount_tomato@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      After Germany declared war on them? They didn’t defeat them out of good will, in fact, I’d say America and South Africa were the closest things to Nazi Germany outside of the Reich

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        1 year ago

        Is it good to beat the shit out of the school bully after he picks a fight with you so he learns to stop picking fights with people? I would say so.

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            There’s a difference between being a good country and being a global force for good. In helping to defeat the Nazis, the U.S. was a global force for good regardless of what else they did, had done or will do. The same with Stalinist Russia.

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              And then they took all the top scientists from Germany and Japan, who were guilty of crimes against humanity, and made them high ups in the American government

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          Should I remind you of the land the USA originally had and what they did to the people who lived in the lands they conquered?

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        I would say it was a combined effort, but Russia suffered a lot more. They didn’t liberate Paris though.

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        Not really, no. And let’s ignore the part where the only reason they even fought is because Russia wanted to conquer some of the same land as Germany 😂

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            Because Stalin didn’t invade Poland and the Baltic states, right? And he didn’t sign agreements with hitler before the war?

            Oh oh let me guess, they were “saving them from Nazis”! Now where have I heard that before…

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              The west constantly uses the memory of appeasement to justify its killings today but back when it was happening Stalin tried to start the war when Hitler could be easily crushed. It’s only after the west decided they would rather use the nazis to kill the communists than prevent the holocaust that deal was made.

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                What are you even talking about? Hitler attacked the Soviets, not the other way around. And it was because they broke their agreement and took territory that they said they wouldn’t.

                Appeasement isn’t even relevant in this context, so not sure what you mean by that.

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                    In the context of WW2 appeasement refers to Britain and the rest of Europe giving pieces of Czechoslovakia to Germany. Not a deal between the Soviets and Germany to carve up Eastern Europe.

                    It’s ok keep working on your English!