First police investigation of Supernova festival also found Israeli forces responsible for some deaths.

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    WTF kind of terrorism supporting comment is this?

    Hamas published their own videos showing them murdering civilians. They threw grenades into bomb shelters that families were hiding in.

    You’re blaming the response for people dying? The response that has been widely panned as taking too long, allowing many civilians to perish?

    WTFF.

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      Israel used terrorism to found their state.

      What makes it immoral to use against Israeli colonization?

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        Bro, Israel was founded by UN decree. The Palestinians were given the same deal, they were actually offered a better deal in the 30s and refused. It wasn’t founded by terrorism, it was defended from immediate attack by its Arab neighbors though.

        FFS, the Palestinians had millions of dollars set aside for them to set up their government and society, funding that Israel was never provided.

        I’d suggest you read the UN declaration before going about spreading disinformation.

        Jews are indigenous to Judea. To claim they’re colonizing their Homeland is laughable. Palestine isn’t even an Arabic word, they’re colonizers from the Arabian Peninsula for crying out loud. It’s crazy that narrative took off.

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          Palestine isn’t even an Arabic word, they’re colonizers from the Arabian Peninsula for crying out loud. It’s crazy that narrative took off.

          Okay I was gonna actually respond to your points but the moment you said this I realized you don’t know much about this conflict. Palestinians are also natives of Judea, now called Palestine.

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        An immoral thing is immoral regardless of the reasons. Everyone thinks they are the good guy, everyone thinks their actions are justified.

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        https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/mondoweiss/

        Can you please use less bias sources if you’re going to attempt to spread lies?

        Like this one is known for being extreme and Antisemitic. If this is where you’re getting your information, you should probably find better sources.

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          This is mediafactcheck’s bias coming through. This site is founded by Israeli Jews and is explicitly intended to give a Jewish perspective on the conflict. Media fact check takes the words of Zionist-sympathetic organizations like the anti-defamation league too highly, so Mondoweiss gets labeled as antisemitic even though personally I haven’t seen a single example of antisemitism on it. The claim that a site created and run by an Israeli, progressive Jew is antisemitic, there needs to be sufficient evidence for that, otherwise the most logical conclusion is that antizionism is being presented as antisemitism.

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      https://youtu.be/OF4VVyRsnUs?si=oVPAkFY99kfPpZw5

      There was a soldier inside this bomb shelter. The IDF were clearly using civilians as human shields. Hamas had no other choice to exterminate the IDF terrorists.

      Memes aside, Hamas very clearly targeted IDF locations and their main goal was taking hostages.

      On Oct 7 they got a currently known 70% civilian casualty rate (1 in 3 kills was IDF) what is far better than America’s 90% or whatever the fuck israel is doing in Gaza right now. If anything Hamas has proven that they did not target civilians just by the civilian casualty percentage.

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        Every citizen in Israel is a soldier or was one. That you’re using their reserve status to claim they are soldiers is disgusting.

        The Palestinians published video of themselves cheering over brutalized women and handing out sweets while being celebrated in the streets. They put baby’s in ovens. They admit this and are proud of it based on the audio from the day.

        You’re covering for terrorists that don’t even want coverage. That’s fucked up.

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          So a non active Hamas combatant isn’t a valid target either?

          By the way these are active IDF troops. It was a very targeted attack against the militant kibbutzes where mainly soldier’s live.