A voter-approved Oregon gun control law violates the state constitution, a judge ruled Tuesday, continuing to block it from taking effect and casting fresh doubt over the future of the embattled measure.

The law requires people to undergo a criminal background check and complete a gun safety training course in order to obtain a permit to buy a firearm. It also bans high-capacity magazines.

The plaintiffs in the federal case, which include the Oregon Firearms Federation, have appealed the ruling to the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. The case could potentially go all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court.

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    If you’re gonna quote the right, then quote all of it, it’s for the purpose of a militia.

    Last I checked none of the UA citizens are in one because we have a very well organized military instead which was the immediate down fall of what were typically loosely organized groups.

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      We have well-regulated militias.

      They’re called the National fucking Guard.

      Every Tom, Dick, and wife-beating Harry doesn’t need to walk around with enough firepower to massacre a neighborhood.

      The Constitution is a framework of government, not a goddamn suicide pact. Society and technology have changed since it was written, and we aren’t worried about needing the family musket to form a citizen militia to repel the Brits invading from Canada. And even by the end of the Revolutionary War, the myth of farmer militias gave way to the reality of a professional army.

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        I personally wouldn’t call that a militia. My understanding of a militia is that it’s a small group of people 20-40 max.

        The national guard is significantly larger and much much more well organized.

        That being said I agree with the rest of what you’ve said.

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        The Constitution is a framework of government, not a goddamn suicide pact.

        This is really a the core of the current problem, I think. We’ll never get enough votes for an amendment of any kind IMO. R would vote against an amendment from D saying the sky was blue. So now we’re at a place where turning schools into prisons due to all the security measures and similar bandaids are the only things we can do.

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          No meaningful amendment has been passed since the 80s or 90s I think. The only one that has was on the books literally from the 1800’s and was only recently ratified.

          There’s exactly a 0% chance of getting 2/3 of the states on board with anything

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            There’s exactly a 0% chance of getting 2/3 of the states on board with anything

            Truly a sad state of affairs, and to use the language of the other poster, it does turn the constitution into a suicide pact from a certain point of view.

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      Not according to the Supreme Court:

      https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/554/570/

      “Private citizens have the right under the Second Amendment to possess an ordinary type of weapon and use it for lawful, historically established situations such as self-defense in a home, even when there is no relationship to a local militia.”

      Here’s the confusion…

      Back when the 2nd Amendment was written, things like “well regulated” and “militia” meant different things than they do now.

      The militia was comprised of all able bodied men who could be called up at any time for defense. They were literally members of the general public.

      Well regulated meant “well armed and equipped”.

      So knowing this, the 2nd Amendment makes perfect sense.

      “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

      Reads as:

      “A well armed and equipped populace, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

      The key phrase here is “right of the people”. All people.