Leading scientists worldwide delivered a striking dose of reality to the United Nations on Sunday: it’s “becoming inevitable” that countries will miss the ambitious target they set eight years ago for limiting the warming of the Earth.

The ominous estimate points to the growing likelihood that global warming will shoot past 1.5 degrees Celsius before the end of this century, inflicting what scientists describe as an overwhelming toll from intensifying storms, drought and heat on people and the economy. It also injects an urgent message into global climate talks in Dubai, where the debate over ramping down fossil fuels is set to flare over the next two weeks.

Surpassing the temperature threshold — even temporarily — would be a major blow to the international Paris climate agreement from 2015, which called for nations to keep global temperatures well within 2 degrees Celsius of their preindustrial levels, and within 1.5 degrees if at all possible. The findings come amid climate talks that for the first time are focused on taking stock of whether almost 200 nations are meeting that goal. Early indications offer a bleak picture.

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      It’ll depend on who you ask: The obscenely wealthy will still say yes and the people they’ve been fucking over forever will probably disagree except perhaps about 39% of the normal population which is apparently too stupid to question or think critically about literally anything.

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      Gonna be moving back to tribal society.

      It was a good run (for the ruling class), but the natives win in the end. That’s what sustainability is all about.

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      The United States and China will be the biggest winners of climate change. The nation’s around the equator will be the biggest losers.

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        Don’t be so sure. We in the US are already struggling with refugees at our border; that problem will intensify exponentially as warming increases.

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          Tell me why this will not end in a massacre? The Western nations are already electing fascist leaders with a minor refugee crisis. When the situation worsens, borders will be closed, people will be shot or otherwise “taken care of”. I wish it weren’t so, but with our history and current trajectory, why is it not going to end like that?

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            Devils advocate here, but wouldnt that be the best case scenario for the planet?

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              The planet doesn’t care. It doesn’t matter at which level the final temperature sits, the planet will keep on rotating around the sun.

              The question is how WE want to live.

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          The border issue will increase to the point the Conservatives will rule no one can come in. They will permanently close the U.S. Land Border.

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            Closed borders hasn’t stopped determined folks. There will always be ways to get across, legal or not.

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    It’ll settle somewhere around 3° to 5°, because that’s the point where the global economy collapse irrecoverably. There’s no other way that we’re going to get out of this.

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      Unless somewhere on the way to +3°C there’s a tipping point that will lead to runaway heating, then all bets are off and +10°C is on the table.

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          How much profit might one extract before getting to that point? Asking for a friend.

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            None that you can take with you, and not enough for food, but enough to suffocate in a bunker if your guards don’t shoot you

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      Also, at some point we’ve actually burnt all the oil. So there is an upper bound, unless it triggers a runaway.

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        Well you can also make organic compounds for combustion from plants or directly from the constitutive monomers, so theoretically… we can go on after oil!

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          Yes, but this requires energy input, so it isn’t as efficient as just using that energy directly.

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    I want there to be a list of all the broken promises nations have made throughout the years.

    There should be a big fat percentage next to each promise that represents how often promises are kept.

    “US pledges to reduce carbon emissions by X amount in 10 years! (US has a record of keeping only 5% of its long-term promises.)”

    Kind of puts things into perspective for everyone.

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    The ominous estimate points to the growing likelihood that global warming will shoot past 1.5 degrees Celsius before the end of this century

    Current estimate points to reaching +1.5 this year.

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      For one year, and there’s a debate going on in climate science because of how much you can extrapolate for a single year. The +1.5C they’re talking about would be sustained for the long run.

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        If the average drops back down to +0.9°C or below in 2024, I’ll eat my hat.

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          You’ll probably have to eat it any way, because of the famine.

          Was gunna put /s but then I started to question myself.

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          its possible. our southern summer is lining up to be not as warm as initially expected so there’s a chance

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    Surprising, since not a fucking thing has actually been done.

    No, don’t correct me. I’m insulting the measures you’re describing. That was the point. We deserve to die, as a species, given the shameful so-called response we have made to this existential threat. If it had been aliens we would have rolled over like a bitch. We coulda done something, but it looks like we actually are just a bunch of monkey-ass retards with nothing better to do than pretend money is important. We need a jihad against all religions and a cultural purge of capitalism, and hey, we’re gonna get it, pretty soon too, in the form of “too late you’re fucked”.