In a tense game of chicken, remarkable for its mix of petulance and audacity, congressional Republicans are threatening to halt U.S. aid to Ukraine—guaranteeing a Russian breakthrough and possible victory in that war—unless Democrats help pass a bill that all but locks down America’s Southern border.
If the impasse isn’t resolved by the end of next week, when Congress goes on recess until the new year, the Ukrainian army could run out of ammunition. President Joe Biden could resupply the arsenal from U.S. stockpiles without legislative approval, but the move would be temporary, and the signal sent—that Ukraine, and by implication other allies, can no longer count on U.S. support in a pinch—could be a holiday cork-popper for Russian President Vladimir Putin and all of our other adversaries.
Throughout history, conservatives have always supported genocide. Harming the vulnerable brings genuine joy to conservatives. You can see this in their movies, comedy and news media. They thrive on the misery of others.
Be careful in your dealings with conservatives. They do not value the lives of others the way a normal person does.
The most basic difference between “left” and “right” on the political spectrum is that left-leaning people believe every human is worth the same and should get the same chances while right wing people believe humans are fundamentally different and the ones on the top deserve their place as much as the ones on the bottom.
That’s also why so many libertarians (or just recently proclaimed anarcho capitalists) are actually right-wing since they believe in unequal distribution of chances and quality of life based on capitalist principles and it’s also why moderates that claim to be neither right nor left usually lean more right
Maybe. Probably some. But I think it’s more accurate to say that for a lot of then, the suffering is acceptable.
On the Left Right and Center podcast, the conservative Rich Lowry once said it was ridiculous to say Republicans hate children. I think that’s true in the sense of, if you left a baby alone in a room with a Republican, it would be ok. But if that Republican could earn a penny of profit from killing that kid, you better start planning that funeral cause they’re toast.
I know! The movie Lady Ballers? Seriously, what the fuck is going on there. I get that comedy often comes at the expense of someone, even if it’s just the comic or a fictional character or situation, but that movie… It’s cruel humor that dehumanizes people and mocks their pain. Anyone who supports it is a rotten person.
Then why are the Democrats supporting genocide? That ain’t Trump’s state department and UN ambassador vetoing a ceasefire.
The US deputy ambassador, Richard Mills, said the US would not give up on its aim of removing Hamas, explaining America wanted “to break the cycle of unceasing violence so that history does not keep repeating itself”. He said a ceasefire now “would only plant the seeds for the next war because Hamas has no desire to see a durable peace. Our goal should not be to stop the war for today but to stop the war for ever”.
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lol you’re all over the board
Au contraire. Judging by the downvotes, I’m exactly where I need to be.
I think they meant that you’re so terminally online I can read a comment and recognize your garbage takes no matter where I go
If my takes are garbage, just ignore them. But you don’t, because they’re not. There’s genocides happening around the world, and you’re complaining about someone being terminally online? SMFH
Republicans are scumbags. If you’re a republican reading this, ask yourself what it is about your brain that makes you support true evil.
Do you feel small inside? Like you didn’t get what you wanted from life, so now others should suffer?
The answer is that conservative thinking is driven by fear. It’s not that liberals don’t fear things, it’s that liberal thinking isn’t driven primarily by fear.
This is a stupid question, but what is connection of fear-based thinking and not surprising Ukraine or supporting Putin?
The Republican base is taught to fear. Fear liberals, fear diversity, fear whatever they’re told to fear. A generation ago they were told to fear Russia, so we opposed Russians with all our strength. They’re told the only salve for their fear is a strong leader.
Now, today, Putin presents himself as a strong leader and suddenly Russia is no longer to be feared but admired. So what that he wants to rebuild the Soviet Union by invading the nations around him? Trump says he’s a good guy, so obviously when he says he’s invading Ukraine for their own good he must be telling the truth.
They follow anyone who presents themselves as strong and confident because that allays their fears somewhat. And since their current leaders like Russia and don’t like Ukraine, that’s what they’re supporting.
The fear is that a trans! woman might sneak up behind you at the urinal and sodomize you!
So Republican fears are just their deepest fantasies?
Well when you put it that way, yes. Absolutely.
Yeah, we have to closely watch the dollars spent on this war, from the very same party that had no problem funding the Afghanistan and Iraq wars and letting them go on indefinitely…and the very same party that used to be so staunchly anti-Russia.
Russian State TV ran celebratory pieces when the House elected Johnson as speaker. He’s been in their pocket for a while.
Remember when a bunch of Republican senators had a secret meeting with Putin on the Fourth of July?
I keep hearing about this. Where can I find more info?
Biden has pulled off other victories in the past that we all thought were dead.
Let’s hope he can do it again.
I’m surprised stopping immigration is so high on the Republicants handlers lists right now, considering there’s not enough people willing to work menial jobs as-is and that doesn’t seem to be changing.
They found a loophole. They don’t need adults to do those jobs anymore. Unaccompanied minors aren’t turned away at the border and multiple states are removing child labor laws. Now we have unaccompanied immigrant children working fun time making cars in Ford and GM factories, Cheerios, and all sorts of other things for pennies, all here in the US.
They aren’t working for Ford or GM. What the fuck with this? Even if the companies wanted to, the unions wouldn’t stand for it. I’m going to need a reputable source for this.
Edit: Or downvotes. That’s a perfectly reasonable way to respond to doubt and incredulity.
Their example was a bit simplistic. They are working in the supply chain and several other, less unionized, industries like meat packing and processed food.
What the OC said and this are not at all the same thing. You’re right. They’ll be in B2B companies and construction and food service. But what OC explicitly said was “in Ford and GM factories” and “making cars.”
It might be fair to say this of any big company who has B2B workers working in their factories. A lot of companies outsource janitorial services for example and could have kids in them. But a company like GM or Ford doesn’t want to get their hands dirty by directly hiring illegals, and the UAW would never stand for an outside company doing work the union could do.
Of all the defensible examples they could’ve used, those two are the least likely to be implicated. Hence my incredulity. If they have a beef with the auto industry or American automakers, this was the wrong thread to pull them out as the go to bad guy.
Absolutely. I just wanted to provide better examples.
Who removed child labor laws?
sarah huckabee sanders for one.
They just removed the requirement to get a permission slip from the government. They didn’t change anything else. Still the same regulations.
Illinois now allows children as young as 14 to work without parental approval.
Can you show me? Everything I see suggests a parent is required for the cert.
The free market / capitalist part of the GOP is dead and gone. They don’t care about labor, the budget, spending, anything - they just care about getting power and keeping power. They also don’t really intend to do anything they claim to care about, it’s all just about fluffing up the base.
The faction of Republicans that now firmly control the House have ties to Russia. Don’t forget all the stuff we’ve learned in the last 7 years. This isn’t good faith.
Is it really a gift if you paid for it?
It’s like when your mom used to give you money to buy her a gift for Christmas. Except this time you’d be a treasonous rat-faced fucking traitor and your mom would be a Russian asshole.
Every conservative is already a traitor to humanity, so this is kind of on brand. 😇
Fucking SPOT ON!
A victory that will solidify China and Russia and embolden them against Taiwan, moving us straight into WW3. A little deterrence could go a long way right now.
From Arsenal of Democracy to Arse of Democracy in 70 years
Fuck the republican traitor filth. We must hold the traitors to account!
Seriously. They are insanely fucking compromised. Anti-american trash who don’t deserve to live here anymore.
Careful. That’s how they want you to think about others. Ruthless means literally without compassion. Now granted, you may need to dig deep in some cases.
Just because Russia wants me to think something, that doesn’t make it not true.
If the impasse isn’t resolved by the end of next week, when Congress goes on recess until the new year
You ever notice how many of these critical bills come up and the news is like “they have 25 minutes to negotiate before Congress goes on one of its biannual 5 month vacations”? Like, I know the theory is that they’re supposed to spend that time in their districts dealing with their constituents but by show of hands does anyone feel like their congressperson actually gives any sort of a wet shit about them or their district?
I’ve said it before. We need to make congress and the supreme court live in their respective buildings during their tenure, like a prison.
This is what happens when you get locked into having only two major viable political parties. This shit is going to continue unless the American political system is reformed to allow multiple viable parties, for example with ranked-choice or approval voting.
Both partiesApparently just fucking Republicans will fight against this tooth and nail.Both parties
Sorry, but that’s not true at all.
Democrats have consistently been the ones to institute RCV in the US, including in North Carolina, until Republicans repealed it. Like it or not, if you want rights these days, you need to vote Democrat.
Dang, you’re right! Thanks for the fact check, I realize now I never questioned that concept, it was totally an assumption.
Here is a good article, plus a media bias check on the source. I was unable to find any mentions of Democrats actively fighting ranked choice voting (RCV).
https://19thnews.org/2023/04/ranked-choice-voting-election-system/
Eh, I don’t think Ukraine has a chance of winning without foreign troops.
There are a lot of foreign troops volunteering there.
If only the rest of the world could help save Ukraine from Russia and the evil Republicans…
The rest of the world doesn’t have a humongously big arsenal that they can donate the weapons from in order to buy more BC they aren’t the richest economy in the world. Even if the EU had enough between all the countries the lack of central gov really makes it harder
There are a bunch of countries that have arsenals almost as big as the US. We aren’t the only ones that are able to help, we just love getting involved in other countries conflicts.
The US has more military power than the rest of the top 10 combined. What countries do you think rival the US in terms of military might?
In fact, we have so much random bullshit laying around from previous wars that we ship it off to allied nations pretty regularly - then we STILL had so much that we started selling it to random police departments and mercenary outfits in the US with the stipulation that the DoD can just roll up and take it back if they really need it.
I’m not sure you understand just how much ordnance the US keeps around.
EU is trying to pass $50 billion in aid but US Republicans aren’t the only politicians stroking Putin’s balls
If only the US democrats and republicans hasn’t lobbied and pushed for this war to happen.
Oh I’m sorry. Forgot you can’t say that and we have to pretend Russia woke up one day and decided to invade… Sigh.
As an American I can say for sure I don’t give a shit about that war. There is no scenario at all that if situations were reversed we would get the sort of support we’ve given from anyone.
I hate Putin. I don’t want Ukrainians to suffer. At the same time America is not the world’s police.
It’s not like the US is supporting Ukraine alone. We just happen to have the best weapons, and a vested interest in containing Putin’s authoritarian ambitions. Providing material support to Ukraine without putting our own boots on the ground is a win all around.
One reason Putin went to such efforts to stop Clinton from winning here is because she knows who he is and was very effective at quietly neutralizing him. Now we’re dealing with his ambitions in action, and we’re not doing it alone.
Right but how is it we are held accountable every time our fucked political system puts Ukraine in jeopardy. If my neighbor was losing his house and I paid his rent so he could stay another month who the fuck would expect me to keep supporting them indefinitely?
I would challenge our media to say it how it is, “Ukraine may fall and Americans can do nothing to stop it.”
If your neighbor ends up homeless, what do you he’ll do to survive? Anything? Do you think that maybe helping your neighbor might contribute to the health and safety of your community better than if you leave him in desperate straits?
But let’s make the metaphor match the situation a little closer. Your neighbor across the street is dealing with another neighbor who wants their property. They won’t sell, so the other neighbor is getting violent to get their way. Not your problem, right? Not until that neighbor comes after you, and with your arsenal they wouldn’t dare do that, right? That will certainly help keep the peace in the neighborhood.
Being a good neighbor means more than just ignoring what’s happening on the other side of the fence. Strong communities look out for each other and help where they can. That applies internationally as well as locally.
My international friends, America is struggling. Fascism is at our door step. I love you very much but we were never very good at the role of ‘world cop’, which we made up, anyway. Superman is a God. Batman is the joker.
We have the means. We only lack the will, because the fascists in our government want to emulate Putin. Becoming isolationist won’t solve our problems. Punching our own Nazis before the rest of the world has to do it for us is the only way.
If we go the way of Nazi Germany, we’ll deserve the same treatment we have to them.
I’m only arguing America is not on the hook for any funding they didn’t get. Not that it’s right or good. When we look in the mirror though we have to see that person and tell them, we need help.
America is not on the hook
But we are on the hook because we will absolutely have to deal with the consequences in the future. Not stopping Russia here, in Ukraine, will reverberate for decades.
False dichotomy. Spending money helping Ukraine is not helping fascists at home.
Never said it was. So… ???
What you said came across that way to me.
Where is EU with their funding? Surely the threat of having a neighboring nation would sway into helping more right? Right?
The EU is sending a lot of support to Ukraine, but they’re not the military bullies we are.
Whataboutist says what?
So its up to the US now to do fucking everything right. Thats the implication
