No. They are two different projects.
Lineage is about providing a Google free version of android AOSP and supporting as many phones as possible.
Graphene is about making a privacy centric version of android that can run Google apps sandboxed. Graphene only supports pixel phones.
Does graphene allow banking apps ? Does it trip safety net ?
I think GrapheneOS isn’t made for that purpose. It’s made to be safe and do privacy well. I think signature spoofing, rooting to circumvent things etc are opposing requirements. I don’t think everything works. There are websites and other comments with more info. My Banking TAN App works, though. Google Pay doesn’t.
I’ve always found it both weird and ironic that GrapheneOS is only available for Pixel phones when the whole principle of the project is basically “we don’t trust Google”.
The pixel device is (as far as I’m aware) the only mainstream device that allows you to re-lock the boot loader.
Otherwise, once a phone is cracked, it remains cracked. I’m not entirely sure what that buys, but that’s why they do it
They also have an accessible secure element that graphene uses a lot. I’d recommend listening to the podcast interviews with graphene staff
This isn’t true at all. Daniel Micay has stated multiple times the goal isn’t to degoogle, it’s to provide a secure and private OS that’s actually usable. They worked tirelessly to integrate GMS compatibility layer and give users the choice to install sandboxed Google play for app compatability.
GrapheneOS has said countless times that by using Linux and other open source softwares that Google contributes massive amounts of code, you ARE inherently trusting them to not be malicious https://nitter.1d4.us/GrapheneOS/status/1672998518573740033#m
Google play does what it says and they are very open about what data they collect, which is obviously a lot. GrapheneOS stops much of this collection through sandboxing, where you can deny any permissions you desire.
What happened to LineageOS?
Nothing. What makes you think something happened to it?
It’s still very much alive! Still getting regular updates on my S10 and even security updates for my OnePlus 3t.
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I ran sailfish on my 1+1 back in the day for a while. It was a nice OS but the app ecosystem was just horrible and their android compatibility just never worked right for me.
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Yeah, I feel the same about Firefox OS, Ubuntu mobile, Web OS, and Meego. I wish we had a third option at least, that was a little more viable for people that have a handful of apps for widgets and stuff. At this point I think that any real contender is going to have to bake android compatibility in to hope to make a dent in the market at all. Too many normal people expect to be able to use their phone to control some gadgets they have bought, smart stuff and iot gear. Without rewriting all the various apps to control those gadgets people are going to be hesitant to try anything else going forward IMHO.
I’m using LineageOS 20 right now, waiting on 21. I’ve been getting weekly updates since I installed it, so things seem fine for them.
No lol GrapheneOS is a different project run by developer divas. It’s super secure, but only if you use a Google phone, which totally makes it safe. The television ad told me so.
LineageOS is the main pure AOSP ROM, over all the others. It’s still chugging along quite fine, albeit its customisation options have always been fairly limited compared to other custom ROMs.
If you’re using LineageOS4MicroG and complaining about updates, well, you wouldn’t be the first. This fork follows the main tree but updates veeeeeery slowly, such that there are always people asking if it’s dead. So far, after every one of the countless times that’s happened, it’s still been going - so it probably still is.
I personally run DivestOS and feel happy. No developer drama, and I’m not locked in to Google hardware. Ultimately though, all Android phone hardware manufacturers play the same games. It sickens me that so many of them require you to ask their permission to unlock the bootloader on the device you own.
I tried running dos but the location services being removed made life rather difficult so I had to go back to a different room. How do you get taxi apps to work without location services?
I don’t use them too much, but manage to get Uber working with just addresses.
You can also set up location services with MicroG and modules, but setting that up is like stacking a house of cards.
Edit: You could also just install GApps, of varying densities. This is literally installing Google Play Services and its various features, as would normally be found. That kind of undermines the whole privacy aspect of the ROM, but it does get things working very easily, and you can at least limit the amount of crap you install with the various packages (nano, pico, full, etc).
Oh weird. I played around with micro g, but I couldn’t get location services to work I just thought it had been totally stripped out. I’ll give it another go
Location with MicroG is done by additional modules. However, some apps explicitly look for Google Maps’ back end, so there’s another module that installs an old version of that.
LineageOS is still in development. While there’s no official Android 14 (LineageOS 21) yet, there are development builds available, and LOS 20 is still receiving regular official weekly updates.
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