• crystalmerchant@lemmy.world
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    Why the fuck does it seem like NOBODY can just write the fucking names in plain text in a comment. I am not interested in clickbait

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      It’s looking like all the headlines are either false or misleading. Almost no names were included in these fucking documents. I thought I was going crazy at first

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    Before the witch hunts kick off, keep in mind that this “list of associates” also includes victims and others who have sued Epstein for other reasons.

    Wait for the checked and collated list before we start hunting.

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    TL;DR: “Doe 537” or whatever has been identified as some person you’ve never heard of, and it’s unclear whether that means they were guilty of anything. Also Bill Clinton is in there, although it’s also not clear if he was guilty. The only actual indication of wrongdoing by anyone in this fairly long article is here, which I will include with some level of sadness but without comment:

    Alan Dershowitz has sought to get numerous filings unsealed, arguing they would disprove Giuffre’s misconduct accusations against him as well (the two settled a large number of lawsuits and counter-lawsuits against each other and their lawyers in 2022, with Giuffre stating she “may have made a mistake” saying Epstein trafficked her to Dershowitz).

    I nominate “stating she ‘may have made a mistake’” as this year’s six Hemingway words that by themselves communicate the whole goddamned story from beginning to end.

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    404 media has a downloadable zip file, but I found that even though it SAID it extracted 81 documents, the folder only contained 40 or so PDFs.

    https://www.404media.co/download-the-jeffrey-epstein-documents/

    Edit:

    Mostly a list of unredacted legal documents, emails, and transcripts.

    Closest thing I can find to a “List” so far are documents 10 (requested depositions), 15 (emails), and 17 (privelege list). 39 is another email list.

    Still looking though, like I say, 81 documents…

    Edit 2 Document 28 is the Bill Clinton document, but the context is in how they failed in their due dilligence to get his deposition. There is no information that Clinton did anything wrong, in fact, quite the opposite.

    "On one occasion, she adds, Epstein did invite two young brunettes to dinner which he gave on his Caribbean island for Mr. Clinton shortly after he left office. But as far as she knows, the ex-President did not take the bait. ‘I’d have been about 17 at the time,’ she says. ‘I flew to the Caribbean with Jeffrey and then Ghislaine Maxwell went to pick up Bill in a huge black helicopter that Jeffrey bought her. She’d always wanted to fly and Jeffrey paid for her to take lessons, and I remember she was very excited because she got her license around the first year we met. I used to get frightened flying with her but Bill had the Secret Service with him and I remember him talking about what a good job she did. I only met Bill twice but Jeffrey told me they were good friends.’

    ‘We all dined together that night. Jeffrey was at the head of the table. Bill was at his left. I sat across from him. Emmy Taylor, Ghislaine’s blonde British assistant, sat at my right. Ghislaine was at Bill’s left and at the left of Ghislaine there were two olive-skinned brunettes who’d flown in with us from New York. I’d never met them before. I’d say they were no older than 17, very innocent-looking. They weren’t there for me. They weren’t there for Jeffrey or Ghislaine because I was there to have sex with Jeffrey on the trip. Maybe Jeffrey thought they would entertain Bill, but I saw no evidence that he was interested in them. He and Jeffrey and Ghislaine seemed to have a very good relationship. Bill was very funny. He made me laugh a few times. And he and Jeffrey and Ghislaine told blokey jokes and the brunettes listened politely and giggled. After dinner I gave Jeffrey an erotic massage. I don’t remember seeing Bill again on the trip but I assume Ghislaine flew him back.”

    Document 40: “IDENTITIES OF INDIVIDUALS LIKELY TO HAVE DISCOVERABLE INFORMATION RELEVANT TO DISPUTED FACTS ALLEGED WITH PARTICULARITY IN THE PLEADINGS”

    Huh - it SAID it extracted 81 files… but there were only 40 pdfs in the folder.

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      Huh - it SAID it extracted 81 files… but there were only 40 pdfs in the folder.

      There’s an OSX metadata folder in the ZIP which inflates the total number of files listed.

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        Maybe someone should test for a virus. I got a kernel error and failed an audit check in Graphene. I just finished a full reload of everything on the device. Maybe it was an anomaly, but my whitelist firewall blocked a strange address on port 993. I have no idea what that was all about. I also got a weird kernel error after going into airport mode, and the download included a strange zip.html file. I got the link to archive from Wikipedia where there was a 15MB version, but I also tried the 39MB version straight from 404. Maybe avoid this and maybe check your internet logs and devices.

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      So Bill didn’t question why two random underage girls and the (I assume underage) speaker that was there to fuck Jeffry were there? I wouldn’t really call that nothing wrong.

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    Did anyone actually believe this document was going to name names? ROFL!!!