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Senator’s bid to make US military support conditional on whether Israel is violating human rights in Gaza fails by 72 votes to 11
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Unsurprising. Thank you, Bernie, for trying.
Every time America is about to/in the process of making a mistake there’s a video of Bernie Sanders warning everyone not to do it.
Our very own Cassandra of Troy.
Bernie is a national treasure, we don’t deserve him
All the boomers purged their humanity so they could rape this planet. It formed into Bernie Sanders.
In a decent world Bernie would just be a normal guy.
That’s the sad part. We look at this dude saying just…seemingly normal humane things as one of the best people in politics.
Sanders is proof the US is working on a rigged system
he has had the people’s interest at heart since he first started his political career in the 60s and not just the US citizens
He will inspire a group of young people that will actually make the change when boomers die. So there’s that.
The two party thing has been going for 150 years. The top will not ever allow change in the regime.
Sanders almost won in 2016 but the DNC actively conspired against him to run Hillary. The Democrats will rather lose than allow the system to change.
The Democrats will rather lose than allow the system to change.
Prescient. I don’t think many centrist have realized that yet.
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Anyone got a list of who supported it?
Edit: so far I found that it was Sanders (duh), Rand Paul, and 9 democrats. Not sure who
Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky
Democratic Sen. Martin Heinrich of New Mexico
Democratic Sen. Jeff Merkley of Oregon
Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont
Democratic Sen. Chris Van Hollen of Maryland
Democratic Sen. Ed Markey of Massachusetts
Democratic Sen. Laphonza Butler of California
Democratic Sen. Ben Ray Lujan of New Mexico
Democratic Sen. Mazie Hirono of Hawaii
Democratic Sen. Peter Welch of Vermont
Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts
Anyone got a list of who abstained? I want to do the math so I know how large the Senate Genocide Caucus is.
EDIT: I was trying to do math and kept overlooking how the article said that it was 72-11, which would mean 17 abstaining or absent. The Senate Genocide Caucus is 72 members wide.
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1182/vote_118_2_00008.htm
It’s fucked that it’s 15 Republicans and only 2 Dems abstaining.
If my arithmetic is correct, the Senate Genocide Caucus consists of 2 Independents, 32 Republicans, and 37 Democrats.
=71. You’re short 1. (vote was 72-11)
I see what I did. I subtracted from 48 Republicans instead of 49. The Senate Genocide Caucus has 2 Independents, 33 Republicans, and 37 Democrats.
Grassley is in hospital
Rand Paul accidentally stumbles into the correct opinion.
Rand (and Ron) Paul always confuses me.
What’s there to be confused about?
Ron is a soft-spoken man who stood firm in his convictions, and was quietly friendly with white nationals and other horrible people. He’s retired now.
Rand is a bit of a blow hard with no convictions, and is loudly friendly with white nationals and other horrible people. He’s a sitting senator.
Because compared to other nameable Republicans, he occasionally votes in ways that are agreeable with many leftists. But like you said, he’s also still a massive piece of shit.
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day…
The measure was a first-of-its-kind tapping into a decades-old law that would require the US state department to, within 30 days, produce a report on whether the Israeli war effort in Gaza is violating human rights and international accords. If the administration failed to do so, US military aid to Israel, long assured without question, could be quickly halted.
Those senators must be pretty confident that a report would find human rights violations. Why would they oppose it otherwise?
They love giving US the “if you have nothing to hide” argument 🤷
Bernie Sanders is obviously a raging anti-Semite.
The ADL just declared that Jewish Voice for Peace are antisemitic so Bernie probably isn’t far behind.
I hope you are being sarcastic.
I am. I’m Jewish, and a Berniecrat. Bernie is a caricature if an old Jewish man.
if only democrats actually stood for what they say they stand for
we could of had eight years of bernie instead of eight years of further decline with trump and biden
if you think israel didn’t do anything wrong, why oppose an investigation?
(also milosevic did the same thing in the 90s and was prosecuted for it by the icc - the us supported that then)
Serbia bad, Israel good. Realpolitik
Problem is is that Serbia wasn’t a nuclear power. That’s the thing about prosecuting war criminals, they can’t have a nuke that’s tied to their vital signs.
Sigh, the US government never fails to disappoint.
During the Sheikh Jarrah incident I contacted everyone who politically represents me and told them to re-evaluate how freely they fund Isreal, they all gave me lots of lip service telling me they will consider it when opportunities arise and every last one of them voted against this. I don’t think I’ve ever in my life been accurately represented politically on a federal level, and the only reason that’s not true locally is because I’ve testified to local government committees on things that actually made it to the state house floor.
I wish I could give you a hug. It’s so useful to have your voice on this (and I assume other progressive matters?). There are many of us who feel the same way, and some of us are trying to regain our strength to try to improve the world again. Thanks.
Thank you. It’s tough to fight being disheartened when you constantly feel looked over, or like some politicians margin of error. They act like they’d rather lose my vote then consider my prerogatives.
Doesn’t look like there are many scruples left in DC.
There weren’t any in the first place.
Why?
Geopolitics overrides morality.
Concise and efficient, I like your answer.
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The republicans voted against it because it’s from him, and the democrats voted against it because they’re courting the right.
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Israel support is one of those things where you can confidently say that both sides are the same
It’s almost like both sides work for the same entity. Would make sense as to why they act similarly when their strategic allies are under pressure.
Illuminati confirmed.
Israel and large corporations. Let’s not forget Obama bailing out the banks with tax dollars after the 2008 collapse
RIAA & MPAA layers in the DoJ. Jeff Immelt for economic recovery. James Crown.
The DoJ appointments really bothered me because i was a 2600 subscriber and the MPAA shouldn’t even exist let alone have influence on society.
This is the stupidest timeline.
Warren also voted with Sanders.
I’m supposed to believe the Dems that voted against this also care about saving democracy? They don’t even care about basic human rights. We’re going full speed into the worst timeline.
What did anyone expect? Both sides take military industrial complex money
Don’t think the MIC is the deciding factor here, nor that the MIC particularly cares whether aid is attached to human rights scrutiny.
MIC picked Israel > Ukraine and said it really didn’t matter if Biden won again, because both sides take military industrial complex money and will never allow ranked-choice voting.
I think the core here is that the MIC just wants to sell weapons and it doesn’t really matter who or where the ammunition use happens on or with , but that ammo is used and more ammo is bought.
What I meant by my comment is that they aren’t ‘picking sides’ so much as making sure that oversight isn’t enforced so arms sales can continue unimpeded.
