Fault can be shared. If you hire a bad accountant and they did your taxes wrong, you still hired them and it is your taxes. The accountant may be at fault but you can be too.
Because there were six producers on the set, and the DA discovered that the celebrity producer you’re mad about didn’t seem to actually have any duties.
This is very, very surprising to people that know how hard working your average celebrity producer is.
Yeah, Producer titles without any responsibilities are included as part of compensation packages all the time. Sometimes they’re assigned because talent is helping fund part of the movie or consulting on some specific topic, but otherwise not involved other than as talent.
Talent is not expected to know everything about every prop they are handling, that is someone else’s job. They are informed of what they need to be careful of either by a prop master, or the armorer. If the armorer is sending out a weapon saying it is ready for set, then talent will expect it to be in the state they have been educated about in advance.
Thing is though that being a Producer comes with different rules on a set. In a normal circumstance narcing on one can be a career limiting move which is why anonymous union and studio hotlines exist but little fly by night passion projects don’t have those. I have seen some really messed up stuff happen when one of the people who puts up the money for the paychecks is in an indispensable role and they flagrantly break a rule… But this case where the highest ranked on set safety officer is the other half of the equation doing it what in the absolute fuck do you do about it?
Given how people were already leaving the show for reasonable safety concerns (which believe me usually have to be pretty agregrious for people to actually split when they are working shows like this ) you can kind of tell tell what the general Producer/Production Manager attitude was about crew safety versus Producer privilege. Technically speaking I think all of them should be at least fined up the ass but it’s so rare that a Producer, celebrity or not is literally left holding a smoking gun.
We as a culture need to really start looking at the power dynamics on a set because lemme tell you - they fucking matter and they can get you killed.
Last time I saw a discussion on this, someone said it’s been literally over 100 years since the last time someone died on set from a live gun being fired. There are so many rules and regulations in place I can understand why a producer would assume things are just automatically going to be fine no matter what.
Granted, that’s the kind of “taking things for granted” attitude that leads to counties repealing fluoride requirements for municipal water. People get so accustomed to things working well that they forget it takes work to keep it working.
You’re thinking of 1915’s The Captive, in which an extra was killed but there was also 1993, Brandon Lee in The Crow where a .44 bullet was left in the gun and a blank loaded behind it.
Or 1984’s The Cover Up in which Jon-Erik Hexum shot himself in the head with a blank, but the force of the blast killed him.
Considering the amount of (bad) TV they produced, and being an entertainment venue does Maldondo who shot himself at The Tiger King’s park count, too?
If you mean the one during The Crow that didn’t involve live ammo either. The gun was loaded with dummy cartridges used for closeups that contained only primer but did have a bullet. Someone pulled the trigger on one and the primer was enough to propel the bullet into the barrel. Later in the production it was loaded with blanks but procedures weren’t followed and no one checked the barrel for obstructions.
Nobody seems to be blaming the producer of the movie for hiring these people. The producer is also the man who shot the gun
If I hire an accountant to do my taxes, and the IRS comes after me for not having done them correctly, I would expect the accountant to be at fault.
Plus they ARE going after Baldwin, not sure where it’s at right now but they definitely are.
Think his trial is scheduled for a few months from now
Fault can be shared. If you hire a bad accountant and they did your taxes wrong, you still hired them and it is your taxes. The accountant may be at fault but you can be too.
That’s why both of your signatures are usually on the paperwork.
Oh, which one?
Because there were six producers on the set, and the DA discovered that the celebrity producer you’re mad about didn’t seem to actually have any duties.
This is very, very surprising to people that know how hard working your average celebrity producer is.
Yeah, Producer titles without any responsibilities are included as part of compensation packages all the time. Sometimes they’re assigned because talent is helping fund part of the movie or consulting on some specific topic, but otherwise not involved other than as talent.
Talent is not expected to know everything about every prop they are handling, that is someone else’s job. They are informed of what they need to be careful of either by a prop master, or the armorer. If the armorer is sending out a weapon saying it is ready for set, then talent will expect it to be in the state they have been educated about in advance.
Thing is though that being a Producer comes with different rules on a set. In a normal circumstance narcing on one can be a career limiting move which is why anonymous union and studio hotlines exist but little fly by night passion projects don’t have those. I have seen some really messed up stuff happen when one of the people who puts up the money for the paychecks is in an indispensable role and they flagrantly break a rule… But this case where the highest ranked on set safety officer is the other half of the equation doing it what in the absolute fuck do you do about it?
Given how people were already leaving the show for reasonable safety concerns (which believe me usually have to be pretty agregrious for people to actually split when they are working shows like this ) you can kind of tell tell what the general Producer/Production Manager attitude was about crew safety versus Producer privilege. Technically speaking I think all of them should be at least fined up the ass but it’s so rare that a Producer, celebrity or not is literally left holding a smoking gun.
We as a culture need to really start looking at the power dynamics on a set because lemme tell you - they fucking matter and they can get you killed.
The producer is rich and famous.
Last time I saw a discussion on this, someone said it’s been literally over 100 years since the last time someone died on set from a live gun being fired. There are so many rules and regulations in place I can understand why a producer would assume things are just automatically going to be fine no matter what.
Granted, that’s the kind of “taking things for granted” attitude that leads to counties repealing fluoride requirements for municipal water. People get so accustomed to things working well that they forget it takes work to keep it working.
You’re thinking of 1915’s The Captive, in which an extra was killed but there was also 1993, Brandon Lee in The Crow where a .44 bullet was left in the gun and a blank loaded behind it.
Or 1984’s The Cover Up in which Jon-Erik Hexum shot himself in the head with a blank, but the force of the blast killed him.
Considering the amount of (bad) TV they produced, and being an entertainment venue does Maldondo who shot himself at The Tiger King’s park count, too?
I did mean The Captive, yes. I knew there were instances of death by blanks, but didn’t realize one of them involved love ammo too.
If you mean the one during The Crow that didn’t involve live ammo either. The gun was loaded with dummy cartridges used for closeups that contained only primer but did have a bullet. Someone pulled the trigger on one and the primer was enough to propel the bullet into the barrel. Later in the production it was loaded with blanks but procedures weren’t followed and no one checked the barrel for obstructions.
And from my reading, it doesn’t look like anyone was ever charged in that case. Was that referenced at all in this case?