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    She posted that she “…just had to put down 3 horses a few weeks ago”.

    Again as a person who grew up in the country around livestock, WTF is she doing that she had to put down multiple horses? Maybe she should really reconsider any form of animal husbandry because they sure as fuck sound like completely incompetent ranchers.

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      Yeah horses don’t die that frequently and that close together. To shoot two in one week, too shoot them! Instead of vet euthanization. Wild.

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        You have to get the whole horse bloodline. If you leave any alive you’ll be spending the rest of your life in fear everytime you hear hoof steps behind you.

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        I recall a story where my grampa had to do that to a cow. But that was ages ago out in the country where there were no vets and no other better means or knowledge.

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      Maybe she just can’t stop at killing just a single horse.

      Once you pop, you can’t stop.

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    Buy a bird dog.
    WTF, this dog is OBSESSED with birds.
    Let dog run loose.
    Dog catches birds.
    Bird dog is happy for catching birds.
    UNACCEPTABLE!
    Shoot dog.

    Nobody understands, this dog was a maniac around birds!

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      “I took my dog hunting and it killed a chicken instead of the bird I wanted it to kill, so I shot my dog” is one hell of a take, eh?

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        I agree with you on everything else. But bird dogs aren’t for killing birds. They locate and/or retrieve.

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          Hmm did I train the dog wrong?

          No the dog is bad better murder it instead of rehoming it.

          Totally unnecessary.

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    She killed a puppy for acting like a puppy and scaring birds during a hunt. It was 14 months old and sounds like it had zero training. So she takes it to a gravel pit and shoots it. A puppy. For being excited by birds. And it wasn’t trained how to behave around birds.

    And then she writes on Twitter that her autobiography has more stories that will upset the press. She is actually psychotic.

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          I think I understand what you’re saying here. Legally speaking, dogs are property here.

          This said, obviously most Americans do not treat their dogs as such.

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          Well they treat people like the property of corporations and the ruling class, so at least they’re consistent.

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          Our dogs are our family, choom. Don’t mix it up like that, our country is already full of shitty things, but not that. This story is about a piece of human garbage who never should have gotten a puppy to begin with, but that’s not ALL of us.

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            No, don’t use your emotions, I simply stated a fact. In the u.s if I kill your dog, I am liable for property damages. That’s all the law sees your dogs as, that’s all police see your dogs as.

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        Putting down a dog without a good reason isn’t animal cruelty most places if you put it down humanely.

        This weird and gross and downright disturbing, but it isn’t animal cruelty unless she shot it in the stomach to watch it bleed out or something. Which honestly, she may have for all we know, she’s obviously unhinged or very, very dumb.

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          Killing an animal because you don’t want it is animal cruelty. Maybe not legally but the laws rarely follow public morality.

          If animals are in excess there are shelters and they have better ways than a gunshot in a gravel pit.

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          In that she spared it from a life of under an abusive owner? I literally have no idea wtf you’re trying to say and I’m trying to give you the benefit of the doubt

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      Did I miss something? That was a shitty example to back up her angle that the dog was untrainable or whatever. The real “reason” was the puppy killed a bunch of the neighbor’s chickens. That is a fact, as in order of events. The motivation could be many other things, such as: not wanting the bad PR, trying to smooth things over with a neighbor, legitimate guilt/empathy/something for the neighbor losing their chickens as some families may be really attached to their chickens either emotionally and/or financially.

      etc wow I don’t mind saying something that is unpopular but I very much do mind people thinking I’m defending animal cruelty or that I find it anything less than awful and heartless. I was questioning specifically what the comment said about killing a puppy FOR being a puppy. When I said the motivation could have been anything else, I meant she could have killed the puppy for any of those awful reasons too but I did not understand how killing chickens = being a puppy, which someone did kindly answer for me. Clearly I expressed myself very poorly.

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        The puppy was being trained for hunting. Meaning she killed her for doing exactly what she was being trained to do. Of course she wouldn’t know there are some animals she shouldn’t chase.

        Oh, and this is not a one-off thing from Noem either. She also mentions shooting and killing a male goat for “chasing her kids”.

        In any case, I worry when someone’s solution to completely fixable issues with other living beings is to just kill them.

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          Ok duh, thank you! I wasn’t sure what I missed that makes this a puppy being killed for being a puppy so thank you for actually pointing out what I was missing. I couldn’t really make the connection to how it was a puppy specific thing, not defending it.

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          Usually bird dogs aren’t killing anything. They retrieve the fowl after its been shot and they are trained to be gentle with the bird in their mouth. But that doesn’t excuse the shit stains behavior.

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          Yeah im really sorry, I was not in any way shape or form anywhere near that woman’s side but that was not clear. Thank you for being decent to me despite what your impression may have been.

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    You know generally I’m against the death penalty and I’m all up and down threads like these advocating for that not to be the case, because, you know, people get raised in certain environments, we can’t really know whether or not someone’s really committed a crime sometimes, blanket death penalty is bad, yadda yadda ya. You know, consistency in principles.

    but fuck me man this lady needs to be crushed by a big rock or something

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    When I was barely a teenager our neighbor’s dog came into our property and killed/ate all of our chickens.

    We later learned that they ended up shooting the dog. The “common sense” regarding this was that once dogs get a taste for chicken they will never stop coming back to get more.

    I don’t know if that’s true and in our situation it wasn’t a puppy but this isn’t the first time I’ve heard of a dog being killed for eating chickens.

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      Couldn’t they just have, I don’t know, kept the dog on a fucking leash like the rest of civilized society?

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      I don’t know if that’s true

      I’m like 90% sure it’s not, it’s just one of those things that people do as a kind of “common sense” solution, because dogs are generally seen as a pretty disposable object. Like how they used to kill, and maybe still do kill idk, any animal that kills or attacks a person, just kind of on the basis that “that there animal is a man killer. ain’t no goin’ back from that, it’s got a taste for it now.”. Just dumb shit.

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      They killed the dog because they were pissed about the chickens and the dogs life is worth less than the time spent to train it properly.

      They probably just got a new dog and rolled the dice that this one wouldn’t like chicken as much.

      Not responsible pet owners.

      What sets this ladies story apart is that she killed the dog and then looked around for what else she could kill. Because she liked the feeling it gave her.

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    I get that social media seems to be a constant stream of outrage with nobody actually caring, but I think this story might actually derail her.

    There are articles in Fox News, NY Post, and other conservative media outlets about this. They are fairly critical. The fox news one includes tweets from a “country boy” who is like “there’s a difference between taking an old animal out back and a fucking puppy”.

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      People are crazy.

      I saw the movie ‘Enter The Dragon’ in theaters dozens of times back when grind houses were a thing. Every time some thug got killed the crowd cheered. The minute the villain threatened to kill his own cat people were horrified.

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        Humans are sapient, while some other animals can claim the same title as well most cant. Humans can be introspective but most animals fundamentally cannot, there are lots of good reason to kill a human animals should only be killed for food or necessity.

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      Best case scenario, she didn’t train the dog well… that’s not a great reason to murder it

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    This has nothing to do with animals, and the incidents probably never even happened.

    She is advocating for the return of concentration camps and gas chambers.

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    this isn’t shows how futile it is to try to shame such people into being halfway decent. it’s not possible.

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    The focusing on the puppy and not the “she liked it so much that she went and killed a goat slowly” is odd

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    Remember when Mit Romney drove around for vacation with the dog on the car’s roof storage bin?

    By comparison Mit wins this round…I mean time count vs bullet count.

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    When I was young I used to live in rural town and had a puppy that was tough to train. I found the puppy a new home with someone that had the time to train it. I didn’t shoot the dog and blame it on living in a rural county.