A state inspection report offers new details on the hours leading up to a 12-year-old’s death at Trails Carolina, a camp for troubled adolescents.

Staff at a North Carolina wilderness therapy camp failed to check that a 12-year-old boy was breathing during his first night at the facility, a state report released Tuesday found.

The boy, who has been identified in law enforcement records only by his initials, CJH, was found unresponsive around 7:45 a.m. on Feb. 3 at Trails Carolina, a camp for troubled adolescents in the western part of the state.

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    In case anyone wasn’t aware, the ‘trouble’ many of these ‘troubled adolescents’ get themselves into is having a boyfriend or girlfriend that’s the same gender they are. Or, worse, saying their gender is not the one assigned to them at birth!

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      Often it’s those, and they’re heartbreaking. Sometimes it’s “just” het-cis relationships the parents don’t like. Sometimes it’s “Drinking While Evangelical” or other garden variety youthful rebellion. Sometimes it’s depression. Sometimes it’s just literally wicked stepparents. The overriding connection is always that they don’t need to be there and even if they have issues (and to be clear being LGBTQ+ is not a behavioral problem), the so-called solution will be much worse than the problem.

      https://theconversation.com/the-program-netflix-show-exposes-the-dark-side-of-americas-troubled-teens-schools-225399

      https://elan.school/rude-awakening/

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeFWCzLNCmY

      https://screenrant.com/the-program-netflix-documentary-details-events-missing/ (get your adblockers up for Screen Rant)

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      or they didn’t sit there and quietly accept abuse

      or tried to run away and got caught (and/or were found out before they even had a chance)

      Or their parents don’t like their friend group (not uncommon amongst the more hardline religious families)

      There’s probably plenty more I’ve forgotten since leaving reddit. The whole system is fucked and the “camps” shouldn’t be legal.

      The OTHER fun one is what I recall being referred to as “gooning”, where the parents arrange for the kid to be picked up in the middle of the night, put in a vehicle, and driven to the camp. SOMEHOW that is legal and not human trafficking.

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      If you read the article, depression, ADHD, and autism are also reasons children get sent there for some reason.

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          So make a list of those people and never put any trust in them. They are people you can be polite to and not invest any time in.

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      Founded in 2008, Trails Carolina is a for-profit wilderness camp that treats children with diagnoses such as autism, ADHD, bipolar and post-traumatic stress disorders, as well as those struggling with depression or unruly behavior.

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        Camps where they futility try to discipline those disorders out of the kids. I checked on one for my son one time and after reading through the lines and lines of bullshit they threw at me decided it was a bad idea. That camp got shut down in 2012 after losing a lawsuit with one of their victims.

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        I was not talking about this specific camp, but just because that’s their claim doesn’t mean it’s true.

        Also, why do they have depression? Why is their behavior supposedly unruly?

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    What the actual fuck? There is so much to unpack from this article. I googled a bivy; it’s basically an enclosed sleeping bag. Before bivys, they would put a tarp over the zipped-up sleeping bag. Why? What’s the point in enclosing a child on their first night? Maybe to break their spirit? Show them you mean business? I can’t think of anything positive that could come from doing that to them.

    And the “counselors”… they should be equally held liable. They heard things they were unsure of, but never thought to go check them out? That’s negligence.

    I’m pissed. Beyond pissed. Everyone in that organization needs to go to jail. I pray that NC does the right thing and closes this torture factory down.

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      Every “camp for troubled youth” I’ve ever heard of turned out to be a fucking concentration camp for kids full of physical, mental, and sexual torture and religious indoctrination. I wonder if this one also kidnaps kids in the middle of the night.

      The entire idea should be made illegal.

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      He wasn’t just in the bivy.

      He had been required to sleep in a tubelike tent, known as a bivy, enclosed by a solid plastic sheet.

      Asphyxia anyone???

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      This sounds like a bivy style tent… a bivy sack is just a waterproof layer your can put your sleeping bag inside of to stay warm and dry.

      A bivy tent is kind of just a smaller one person tent that is not usually big enough to sit up in like a regular two man style tent.

      That said, it sounds like on the past they used the tarps as a waterproof layer but switched to the bivy tents.

      One weird thing is they put alarms on the zippers of the tent to go off if anyone tried to get out of their tent which seems odd to me.

      Obviously he suffocated so it’s some kind of equipment failure, but in general bivy tents and bivy sacks are really good lightweight gear that can shelter you from the elements. If you don’t have one you generally need a tarp or a regular tent to protect from rain or other water leaking in from the ground.

      I just mean to say their doesn’t sound like anything nefarious in just letting kids sleep in a bivy sack or bivy tent. Locking them in though seems kind of weird. If adults are sleeping nearby you would hear any zippers in the middle of the night etc.

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        just a regular bivy set up wrong, or gotten into wrong like if you really misunderstood the instructions and went head first could create those conditions.

        More likely guess would be hypothermia from it being set up wrong.

        It’s also not entirely clear to me this was a proper bivy. plenty of camps like this just throw the poor tortured child a tarp and tell them to figure it out. That’s why my guess goes to hypothermia.

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        Thank you for the explanation and differentiation. That makes me feel slightly better.

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          I want a bivy sack or a bivy style tent myself but they are a little out of my budget at the moment.

          Locking the kids in the sack or the tent is the questionable action in my opinion.

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      So I’ve worked at out door facilities (none that did this kind of work) and have had colleagues that worked these kinds of camps.

      Basically, you get thrown a minimum of supplies and told figure it out. Not usually a tent but a tarp you are expected to construct into a tent. I knew of one outfit in Utah where kids would get sent in the middle of the winter. I consider it abuse, but if their parents sign the waivers… keep in mind that children are a form of property (for most intents and purposes).

      I refused to ever work those kinds of camps and threw shade at my friends who did.

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        Yes, people like this consider their children to be chattel. It’s why you should ignore anything that someone who uses the words “parental rights” says.

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    Founded in 2008, Trails Carolina is a for-profit wilderness camp that treats children with diagnoses such as autism, ADHD, bipolar and post-traumatic stress disorders, as well as those struggling with depression or unruly behavior.

    Excuse me? You are sending your children with MEDICAL CONDITIONS to be scared straight by a FOR PROFIT company? How is giving them over to abusers going to help them?

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    For some parents the cure to bad parenting is sending your kids off to a death camp.

    They need to make these retreats for parents imo.

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      I will make two points here:

      1. Rarely, but some children just come out wrong. There are plenty of people who lived a regular, normal life and spawned a serial killer.

      2. Sending a child to these sorts of camps is sort of like someone being surprised that they are being fired. If someone is surprised they are being fired, then management failed along the way and missed all the opportunities to address whatever the issue was. Same here–these are going to be terrible parents who could have worked on the problem over the past 15 years who then give up and want someone else to fix the problem for them.

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      Me as well. Still got the physical scars from it. But hey the rest of my life whenever someone talks about how great Christianity is or Jesus I get to smirk at their innocence. So not s total lost.

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        Kind of. I broke contact in 2020. Now I’m about 6 months into transition and got a bit of hair work done, so I actually sent them one message today for the first time. No text.

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          Wow, that was a very brave thing. I don’t know you but am proud of you for that. I am glad that you are getting to be your real self. Best of luck, and don’t put up with bullshit.