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      This is a serious point. I couldn’t afford a place until I was in a relationship. And that was a long time ago. I can’t imagine how difficult it would be with today’s rent.

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    I was a bit surprised rent wasn’t higher, but I wonder how many of the respondents haven’t moved and have rent control, so they aren’t affected by rent hikes.

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    I remember having to spend $20 a week on groceries 15 years ago. Now I’m spending ~$30. It’s disgusting.

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      Would help if they learned to cook.

      Vast majority of my under 40 peers, do not cook. Almost everything they eat is prepared meals or meal substitutes.

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        A lot of people don’t have the time nor the energy to cook these days. If you work long hours or have multiple jobs to make ends meet, things can and will fall to the wayside. It’s not always a matter of laziness like you’re implying.

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        We cook for a family of 4 and grocery prices have still basically doubled in our area. Doing a lot more beans and rice lately.

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      Gardening has its own associated costs with supplies and requires space

      It’s the cost of supplies and garden maintenance and see requirement vs the cost of food at the supermarket

      It needs to cost less than the growable food you can buy at the store

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        You can get away with very little supplies, actually. Basically just a small shovel, the rest be salvaged.

        Pots can be made from old plastic bins/containers, soil/fertilizer can be made from food waste using worms, seeds can be made from surprisingly many fruits/vegetables. Pumpkin seeds are right inside the pumpkin, potatoes and beans can be put right into the soil, even tomatoes can be grown from store bought ones.

        And while it’s a really cool hobby: you’re right regarding the cost effectiveness. Unless you happen to have a significant plot of land, it won’t make a dent in your grocery bill.

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          Plastic can leech plastic into your food, I know this personally from getting headaches from using soda bottles as water bottles

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            And my aunt gets headaches from 5G.

            You’re not getting headaches from water bottles. It’s placebo (or nocebo, in this case).

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              Toxic effects of plastic on human health and environment: A consequences of health risk assessment in Bangladesh

              Ram Proshad, Tapos Kormoker, Md Saiful Islam, Mohammad Asadul Haque, Md Mahfuzur Rahman, Md Mahabubur Rahman Mithu

              International Journal of Health 6 (1), 1-5, 2018

              Plastics are used widely everywhere in our life and without plastic, modern civilization would indeed look very diverse. This study focuses on the toxic effects of plastic on human health and environment and possible consequences of health risk assessment in Bangladesh. Plastics are essential materials in modern civilization, and many products manufactured from plastics and in numerous cases, they promote risks to human health and the environment. Plastics are contained many chemical and hazardous substances such as Bisphenol A (BPA), thalates, antiminitroxide, brominated flame retardants, and poly-fluorinated chemicals etc. which are a serious risk factor for human health and environment. Plastics are being used by Bangladeshi people without knowing the toxic effects of plastic on human health and environment. Different human health problems like irritation in the eye, vision failure, breathing difficulties, respiratory problems, liver dysfunction, cancers, skin diseases, lungs problems, headache, dizziness, birth effect, reproductive, cardiovascular, genotoxic, and gastrointestinal causes for using toxic plastics. Plastics occur serious environment pollution such as soil pollution, water pollution, and air pollution. Application of proper rules and regulations for the production and use of plastics can reduce toxic effects of plastics on human health and environment.

              https://www.comfortncolor.com/HTML/Polystyrene_Styrene Ban/Toxic of Plastic/2018_Toxic_effects_of_plastic_on_human_health.pdf

              This is just a paper citing plastics affects on health in Bangladesh but it does demonstrate that plastic can have these effects

              You are wrongly comparing scientifically proven effects of plastic with misinformation

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                Nope, you’re simply wildly exaggerating the effects of the dosage you’re actually getting.

                That’s like saying water causes cancer, because everyone with cancer drank water at some point.

                You are not getting the minimum doses needed to get from a water bottle. And again, if you’re getting headaches from a water bottle, that’s your imagination. Period.

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    Wait, what? If you’re hungry, nutritious food (canned beans and such) will cost less than $5 a day. And that’s without cooking. If you can boil water, you can save some money and increase the variety of food available to you.

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      When milk of $5+ a gallon in most of the country, the solution isn’t as simple as “cook at home” for those of us with a family to feed. Young Americans don’t mean just 24 year olds.

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      Ah yes, surely the issue must be that people aren’t eating enough poverty meals of canned beans and rice. Meat is obviously only for wall street investors

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        Sardines are a great (and cheap!) source of protein and they’re super nutrient dense. Tons of vitamin d, b, fish oils. This has little to do with the topic at hand, I just got turned onto sardines as someone that wrote them off my entire adult life and they’re awesome!

        On topic though, I love threads like these because we get to see all of the middle/upper middle class nepo-babies come out with their advice on how to manage living with a level of poverty they have clearly never experienced. Always such a special time.

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        What if I told you that you don’t need the processed foods you’ve been eating your whole life? Shocking I know.

        You “I can’t afford food” Them “here’s food you can” You “no not like that! I need muh Doritos to be happy like the commercials tell me!!”

        Most people in Mongolia eat one thing their entire lives and are fine.

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            fresh food is a luxury in the usa, yes.

            i was grew up in a bottom 50% household. most of my childhood diet was sugary snacks, canned/boxed foodstuffs, and frozen meat/vegetables. fresh food was largely reserved for holidays. my mother used to spend about 60/week to feed a family of four, and this was after coupons and in the 1990s