I wonder if the people who wrote the law know that there are multiple versions of the 10 commandments.
They’re pretty similar, but the numbers don’t match up.
The commandment against killing is #6 for Jews and Protestants, but #5 for Catholics. Stealing is #8 for Jews and Protestants, but #7 for Catholics. Then there are some bigger differences.
For Jews #2 says “You shall have no other gods beside me. You shall not make for yourself a sculptured image, or any likeness of what is in the heavens above or on the earth below, or in the waters under the earth.” That’s effectively split into #1 and #2 for Protestants, with #1 being “no other gods” and #2 being “no graven images”. For Catholics, “no other gods” is #1, but they got rid of the bit about graven images, presumably so they can have old finger bones people can worship, or statues to Mary. So, for Catholics #2 says not to take the name of their god in vain. Catholics make up for that by having a commandment against coveting the milf next door and a second one about your neighbour’s stuff, whereas Jews and Protestants have just 1 commandment against coveting your neighbour’s stuff.
Also, the Jews didn’t seem to understand the assignment for #1, because it’s not actually a commandment, it’s backstory: “I am the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, the house of bondage.” So, Jews really have 9 commandments and 1 informational message.
Also, fun loophole. All 3 versions say “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.” #9 for Jews and Protestants, #8 for Catholics. But, if someone isn’t your neighbour… Loophole!
If you talk to many american christians, then the answer is whatever they personally learned or believe. You must believe the same as them and their arbitrary translation of the Bible. All other possibilities are blasphemous and a personal attack on them.
Source: my parents and my entire childhood in school and church
I said that the only group of laws in the Bible called the ten commandments is the ones in Exodus 34. That’s true for all versions of the Bible as far as I know.
But, again, if you can find one that calls another set of laws the ten commandments, please show me the chapter and verse and the edition of it.
Would you prefer the KJV?
Exodus 34:28 And he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.
The NIV?
Exodus 34:28 Moses was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant—the Ten Commandments.
The ESV?
Exodus 34:28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights. He neither ate bread nor drank water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.[a]
The Orthodox Jewish Bible?
Exodus 34:28 And he was there with Hashem arba’im yom and arba’im lailah; he did neither eat lechem, nor drink mayim. And he wrote upon the Luchot the Divrei HaBrit (Words of the Covenant), the Aseres Hadevarim (Ten Commandments).
I wonder if the people who wrote the law know that there are multiple versions of the 10 commandments.
They’re pretty similar, but the numbers don’t match up.
The commandment against killing is #6 for Jews and Protestants, but #5 for Catholics. Stealing is #8 for Jews and Protestants, but #7 for Catholics. Then there are some bigger differences.
For Jews #2 says “You shall have no other gods beside me. You shall not make for yourself a sculptured image, or any likeness of what is in the heavens above or on the earth below, or in the waters under the earth.” That’s effectively split into #1 and #2 for Protestants, with #1 being “no other gods” and #2 being “no graven images”. For Catholics, “no other gods” is #1, but they got rid of the bit about graven images, presumably so they can have old finger bones people can worship, or statues to Mary. So, for Catholics #2 says not to take the name of their god in vain. Catholics make up for that by having a commandment against coveting the milf next door and a second one about your neighbour’s stuff, whereas Jews and Protestants have just 1 commandment against coveting your neighbour’s stuff.
Also, the Jews didn’t seem to understand the assignment for #1, because it’s not actually a commandment, it’s backstory: “I am the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, the house of bondage.” So, Jews really have 9 commandments and 1 informational message.
Also, fun loophole. All 3 versions say “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.” #9 for Jews and Protestants, #8 for Catholics. But, if someone isn’t your neighbour… Loophole!
If you talk to many american christians, then the answer is whatever they personally learned or believe. You must believe the same as them and their arbitrary translation of the Bible. All other possibilities are blasphemous and a personal attack on them.
Source: my parents and my entire childhood in school and church
None of those versions are the things the Bible actually calls the 10 Commandments, which are in this chapter of Exodus.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus 34&version=NIV
Although I’m not sure what the state of Louisiana has against yeast in a blood sacrifice.
You know there’s more than one version of the Bible, right?
Can you show the version that calls any other group of laws the ten commandments? Go for it. Chapter and verse, please.
So there is no difference for you between e.g. the King James Bible, the NIV Bible, or the English Bible from 1631?
I never said anything of the sort.
I said that the only group of laws in the Bible called the ten commandments is the ones in Exodus 34. That’s true for all versions of the Bible as far as I know.
But, again, if you can find one that calls another set of laws the ten commandments, please show me the chapter and verse and the edition of it.
Would you prefer the KJV?
Exodus 34:28 And he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.
The NIV?
Exodus 34:28 Moses was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant—the Ten Commandments.
The ESV?
Exodus 34:28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights. He neither ate bread nor drank water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.[a]
The Orthodox Jewish Bible?
Exodus 34:28 And he was there with Hashem arba’im yom and arba’im lailah; he did neither eat lechem, nor drink mayim. And he wrote upon the Luchot the Divrei HaBrit (Words of the Covenant), the Aseres Hadevarim (Ten Commandments).
How about the ten commandments as shown in the English Bible print from 1631?
Episode 31 of the Data Ocer Dogma podcast covers some of the issues with the “10” commandment. If you haven’t checked them out you may be interested.
Data Over Dogma*