Rights Groups To Sue as Louisiana Requires Ten Commandments Displayed in Classrooms | Common Dreams
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"Our public schools are not Sunday schools," the groups said, "and students of all faiths, or no faith, should feel welcome in them."
  • merc@sh.itjust.works
    38·
    15 天前

    I wonder if the people who wrote the law know that there are multiple versions of the 10 commandments.

    They’re pretty similar, but the numbers don’t match up.

    The commandment against killing is #6 for Jews and Protestants, but #5 for Catholics. Stealing is #8 for Jews and Protestants, but #7 for Catholics. Then there are some bigger differences.

    For Jews #2 says “You shall have no other gods beside me. You shall not make for yourself a sculptured image, or any likeness of what is in the heavens above or on the earth below, or in the waters under the earth.” That’s effectively split into #1 and #2 for Protestants, with #1 being “no other gods” and #2 being “no graven images”. For Catholics, “no other gods” is #1, but they got rid of the bit about graven images, presumably so they can have old finger bones people can worship, or statues to Mary. So, for Catholics #2 says not to take the name of their god in vain. Catholics make up for that by having a commandment against coveting the milf next door and a second one about your neighbour’s stuff, whereas Jews and Protestants have just 1 commandment against coveting your neighbour’s stuff.

    Also, the Jews didn’t seem to understand the assignment for #1, because it’s not actually a commandment, it’s backstory: “I am the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, the house of bondage.” So, Jews really have 9 commandments and 1 informational message.

    Also, fun loophole. All 3 versions say “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.” #9 for Jews and Protestants, #8 for Catholics. But, if someone isn’t your neighbour… Loophole!

    • callouscomic@lemm.eeEnglish
      13·
      15 天前

      If you talk to many american christians, then the answer is whatever they personally learned or believe. You must believe the same as them and their arbitrary translation of the Bible. All other possibilities are blasphemous and a personal attack on them.

      Source: my parents and my entire childhood in school and church

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
          5·
          15 天前

          Can you show the version that calls any other group of laws the ten commandments? Go for it. Chapter and verse, please.

            • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
              2·
              15 天前

              I never said anything of the sort.

              I said that the only group of laws in the Bible called the ten commandments is the ones in Exodus 34. That’s true for all versions of the Bible as far as I know.

              But, again, if you can find one that calls another set of laws the ten commandments, please show me the chapter and verse and the edition of it.

              Would you prefer the KJV?

              Exodus 34:28 And he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.

              The NIV?

              Exodus 34:28 Moses was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant—the Ten Commandments.

              The ESV?

              Exodus 34:28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights. He neither ate bread nor drank water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.[a]

              The Orthodox Jewish Bible?

              Exodus 34:28 And he was there with Hashem arba’im yom and arba’im lailah; he did neither eat lechem, nor drink mayim. And he wrote upon the Luchot the Divrei HaBrit (Words of the Covenant), the Aseres Hadevarim (Ten Commandments).

    • BottleOfAlkahest@lemmy.world
      1·
      15 天前

      Episode 31 of the Data Ocer Dogma podcast covers some of the issues with the “10” commandment. If you haven’t checked them out you may be interested.

  • Coach@lemmy.worldEnglish
    28·
    16 天前

    I’m certain Louisiana classrooms could also use a few verses from The Satanic Bible, too. The Ten Non-Commandments? Maybe we throw it back to the Papyrus of Hunefer or the Epic of Gilgamesh, since Christianity is so derivative.

  • eestileib@sh.itjust.works
    18·
    16 天前

    This is presumably being done in collaboration with the supreme court to give them a test case to permit establishment of the Christian religion in schools.

    • kent_eh@lemmy.caEnglish
      3·
      15 天前

      Please speak to the people sitting beside you in the pews.

      They don’t seem to care what us godless heathens have to say. Maybe they’ll listen to a fellow believer.

  • iz_ok@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
    5·
    15 天前

    What’s also upsetting is that they passed or are set to pass a bill allowing state funding to private schools.

  • circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org
    4·
    15 天前

    Who at all did not see this coming? At this point we as a country just waste resources so the people in the back can push their little christofascist agendas.

  • PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works
    4·
    15 天前

    The irony here is that south Louisiana is still very segregated when it comes to education - those who can afford it send their kids to Catholic school. So a decent amount of students already have this. He’s just trying to “own the libs” in a PR stunt.

  • Raiderkev@lemmy.world
    01·
    15 天前

    I honestly think this was part of their plan. Enact a clearly unconstitutional law, get someone to sue get it escalated all the way to the Supreme Court, and have the Supreme Court somehow pull out of their ass that it’s constitutional.