All undecided voters in a U.S. swing states focus group hosted by pollster Frank Luntz said President Biden should be replaced as the Democratic nominee after watching his first presidential debate against former President Trump.

  • Kalkaline @leminal.space
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    3 months ago

    It just needs to not be Trump at this point. Biden isn’t a touchdown, he’s a punt with the hopes that we can do better next time.

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      3 months ago

      The problem is that the people who agree with your statement aren’t the ones who we need to convince.

      In my view too much is on the line to run Biden. He needs to voluntarily step down where then any younger fresh face that isn’t Kamala can win simply by peoples’ excitement for something different and youthful.

      • jumjummy@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        That’s not going to happen unfortunately, so the choice is Biden or Trump. Want better candidates? Ensure Biden wins and start to promote more progressive candidates in your local elections, then keep supporting them as they climb the political ladder.

        Hoping for a last minute candidate swap for the Democrats is just a fantasy.

        • lennybird@lemmy.world
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          3 months ago

          Says who? You do realize the convention hasn’t even happened yet, right? There are absolutely ways this can change and without too much issue.

          Let’s not say it’s impossible when it absolutely can and a wide swath of the Democratic coalition are suggesting this in earnest.

          • Drusas@kbin.run
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            3 months ago

            Democrats have already voted in their primaries. To switch candidates for that party now would be to disenfranchise those voters.

            • lennybird@lemmy.world
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              3 months ago

              Nah, for starters those votes are of a private party and not the actual general elections. Second, there are protocols in place that allow a change in nominee, and third those votes were a snapshot in time not reflective of where people are necessarily now.

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            3 months ago

            Ok, fair point, but let’s see how many people continue to push “both sides”, “don’t bother voting”, or “I’m going to vote 3rd party” after the convention.

            Anyone that continues to push those talking points is trying to help Trump. Plain and simple.

            • lennybird@lemmy.world
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              3 months ago

              Wholly agree. I will push back against anyone who suggests that. But personally, I am going to advocate we change our nominee while we have time. And if that doesn’t happen, well sure, I’ll fall in line and vote for Biden or anyone so long as it isnt Trump.