Why are people screaming and afraid? Guns are a part of society in America. Unless… they’re dangerous…
The secret service didn’t let anyone but the shooter have a gun, so everyone’s feeling awkward
They just witnessed a 2A activist have his rights trampled by the secret service!
Literally the point of 2A. At least according to them.
If it were biden the supreme court would rule that assassination attempts are speech and protected by the 1A.
Guns are fine unless they’re aimed at me.
- Some Republican probably
Plus I thought they were all the shall not be infringed people
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It’s very sad to see people condoning this. I’m far from a Trump supporter, but this is unacceptable. If this was Biden being shot at, you’d all be saying “typical right wing, gun-toting nutjobs.”
Plus what you fail to understand is that Trump being shot at is just further securing his presidency, and anyone who was previously on the fence will now be more inclined to vote for the person who was “shot at for his beliefs.”
I have to say without condoning it, his hate speeches have brought him hate. I’m honestly surprised this is the first attempt.
It’s interesting times to hear of an assassination attempt and no one I’ve talked to Republican or Democrat is shocked. It just fits Trumps style of politics.
Thats idiotic. For one thing, ill disavow stochastic terrorism as soon as the right does for anybody not on their side. Certainly I dont support it, but are you really gonna claim you think itd be bad if this stuff happened more often targeting conservatives? I dont give a shit that trump got shot at except to be happy that it happened, and the rest of america isnt that dumb either.
Of course its unacceptable, but its literally the definition of “play stupid games, win stupid prizes”. Assassination attempts come with the territory of being a fascist, this event is exactly the same as a lion eating a gazelle. Im happy that nature is taking its course as intended, but im not gonna go around taking sides on the issue.
Wouldnt it be crazy if trump had some life changing moment being shot and tries to turn his shit around. Totally not going to happrn, but the slim possibility is there.
He already had that with the coronavirus and stopped being against vaccines.
Though I think this is completely different. Being shot at for your political beliefs just means that the people you disagree with fear you.
Maybe it was an official act of Biden, then it’s not a crime. Nothing to see here, just as wanted by SCOTUS.
The supreme Court has found any act Biden does is unofficial
I wish I could upvote this twice lol
For the people saying that the shoes comment is odd, take moment to do some reading, or watch a video, about how people react to trauma.
Basically, it’s not outrageous that his brain locked on a seemingly unimportant detail. Humans are very weird sometimes.
Will they want to ban guns now?
This was the worst possible outcome. Unless someone intends on finishing the job it may as well be his election now.
He’ll spend the rest of the election telling people how strong he is, how Biden could not have survived and he’ll use the attack to validate all his claims of Democrat corruption/Republican righteousness.
Unfortunately I think he pretty much had the election the moment the democrats showed weakness by publically doubting their own candidate. But yes, this seals the deal for a trump win this year. What a damn fool. This is something that if you are going to do, you need to make absolutely sure you finish the job apripriately. You fuck this up and you end up giving him a gift.
i agree, but also assassinating the president cannot be an easy task, and considering how far away they were, literally grazing his head is a very very good attempt. trump got absurdly lucky here
You are missing that there is nothing good about this. His protections will double, his base will rally, he will justify further insane actions as he takes over the US. This is like swatting at a hornet and missing and saying it was a pretty great swat though as it stings you repeatedly in the face. Trump gets absurdly lucky with everything. He is meritless but propped up my multitudes of special interests and hordes of uneducated fools.
Doubt it. The people, the actual Democratic voters, not numbers, know what’s at stake, nobody is changing their vote over this, nobody is going to lose votes over this.
I feel like you’re a little out of touch here.
There are hardline Democrats and Republicans who aren’t going to change their positions over anything. There’s also many people who don’t pay close attention to politics and only pick up on big news like this. Those are the people that are going to be influenced unfortunately. These people exist. They are uninformed, easily influenced and they can swing the outcome unfortunately.
They’re also the big group that the whole political campaigns are targeted to.
Whatever damn fool did this has just made the situation about a million times worse. I don’t give a shit who did this, it was the worst move you could have made at the worst time you could have made it.
And those of you jumping to immediate conspiracy theories need to stop and think about how much we tend to make fun of Republicans for doing literally the exact same thing. Us spending the next 3 days circlejerking each other off our own bullshit conspiracy theories isn’t gonna help the situation, its just gonna make us all look like a bunch of hypocrites. Wait a few days, get whatever info they are willing to give us, and then try to figure out what happened. If it still looks fake or like a false flag or whatever the fuck after that point, whatever. but for gods sake use some critical thinking to get there instead of jumping to conclusions with no info.
For what its worth, I am extremely anti-trump, I am scared shitless of what will happen should he win a second term. But dear god, please think about the way you all are acting, when you act like the same kind of psychopaths you claim to stand against it is not a good look. please consider that before you post.
Watch the video. This is a false flag and a lazy one at that. Dude stabbed himself in the ear with a pin, got a group hug on stage and started FIST PUMPING from inside a ring of special service. Head out, fist up, like “HERE I AM. IM NO COWARD”. You know who does that? Actors. Who know the script and have rehearsed the scene.
And the repugs are already blaming biden lol.
Okay, I’ve gotten over my initial shock of this. Clearly this shouldn’t have happened but this is the same guy who said his VP should be hanged, and he himself has called for political violence against his enemies many, many times
I am glad that decent politicians are condemning this attack, as they should. But I think it makes sense to put this incident in perspective, Trump has promoted and supported political violence himself many times before this, including on Jan 6th
At least we can talk about this here. Everything on the other site is locked.
Can’t have anything actually controversial on reddit anymore. The shareholders wouldn’t like it.
Which is wild to me because on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, etc. the controversy drives the most engagement and thus profit
Even on FB they’re deleting articles left and right. I posted an article from NBC on FB, it was deleted in 10 minutes.
Thoughts and prayers
I, too, will be doing nothing
Please let the shooter be a white dude. If he is any minority group they’re gonna be the first to get the supreme Court treatment when he takes power, which seems inevitable now.
It appears to have been a white dude. He was also wearing a T-shirt from some YouTube channel about guns apparently. That’s all I’ve heard so far.
Edit: someone on Twitter has pictures of the suspected shooter
Can you post the pictures here so we don’t have to go to that cesspool?
I probably should have, looks like Elon “Free Speech” Musk must’ve purged the post from the site as I can’t get it to load this morning. Apologies for the omission.
Rhe article has been updated, it appears he was a registered Republican.
I don’t think this will change much. Biden’s response might. But politically, identity politics outweigh martyrdom in US. The right will get rightier and the left leftier. Most likely outcome IMO is emboldened like-actors on either side. Undecided voters could react maybe, but are they really that keyed in to be undecided in the first place?
I think you’re right that this won’t change much in terms of how people vote, but I believe it will greatly increase the tension between MAGA Republicans and everyone else. It seems probable that there will be some form of violent outburst from them.
Yeah, if nothing else trump will use it as post election legitimization for using lethal force in protest suppression and later, even more grievous acts. Not that he would have cared or needed it.
Someone would say it will accelerate things…
The guns are out, now someone somewhere will shoot back
This will be the basis of a wildly disproportionate, violent response aimed at anyone they want.
I don’t think they were ever planning on using a basis beyond class and ethnicity.
