A Republican state senator has called for “civil war” if Donald Trump loses the presidential election in November.

George Lang, an Ohio politician, made the comment as he introduced JD Vance at his first solo campaign event since becoming Trump’s running mate.

After taking to the stage fist-raised and shouting Trump’s post-shooting battle cry “Fight! Fight!”, Mr Lang warned of an existential threat facing Americans. He declared in front of a large, heated crowd in Ohio: “We are in the fight for the soul of our nation… for our kids, for our grandkids, it is a fight we can never imagine.

“I believe wholeheartedly, Donald Trump and Butler County’s JD Vance are the last chance to save our country. Politically, I’m afraid if we lose this one, it’s going to take a civil war to save the country.”

Video of the speech

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      But the US didn’t have tanks and planes back then. Surely our muskets will be even more effective against those.

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        The US would win without ever firing a single shot. Cut off electricity, the countless food products we import, imported fuel, cheap products from China, USPS/FedEx/Amazon Prime/etc, and so on. A week of eating gruel in the dark and they’ll be begging to rejoin the US.

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    Bullfuckingshit. I said it when Trump was shot at, and I’ll keep saying it: only ONE party has been ramping up the rhetoric for violence, and it sure as fuck isn’t coming from Democrats. These morons obviously don’t care if they get shot at again, because it’s not in their minds that they are causing the problem.

    This is their M.O. though:

    1. Identify a target to rant about
    2. Call for violence
    3. Say you’re TOTALLY FUCKING SERIOUS THIS TIME
    4. Apologize and act like that’s enough, knowing what you said will stick with the crowd, but the Democrats aren’t going to call bullshit.

    Here’s a thought: Biden uses his last 6 months of King Powers granted by the SC to put everyone of these fuckers in jail by Executive Order on sedition and treason charges, backing it up by making it an “Official Act” since Trump was shot at, and these assholes are trying to get more people shot at. That’ll shut them the fuck up.

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      Executive orders not needed, there are actually crimes they can be charged with but for the federalist society plant running DOJ

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      Call your Senators and Representatives and give them an earful about this. If they shrug you off or they are on the side of those calling for civil war, then let other gov’t officials know.

      We collectively need to stop allowing these shit lords from getting away with putting the idea of war against each other into the minds of those that otherwise know it’s wrong but just follow groupthink

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      One minor, but important distinction:

      Yes, the alt right and Republicans generally have been ramping up violent rhetoric. They broke the social contract and thus are no longer covered by it.

      They are now valid targets of violence.

      It’s a subtle distinction but important one and one we on the left must be careful to employ because the Alt-right will use any violence against them and will respond in kind.

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      I mean, you’re totally right until the last paragraph. I don’t think Biden locking them up by executive order would shut them up. I think it’s more likely that would spark the civil war they’re so desperate to have. They’re like Kyle Rittenhouse, just waiting for an excuse to shoot a leftist.

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        Sorry, it doesn’t read with inflection properly I guess. I guess just every time some random trying to curry favor with Trump calls for violence or a Civil War, that there should be punishment. Seems Biden can do that now milli-vanilli, and he should use it for some good.

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        That and the Supreme Court gets to decide what king powers are legal, and who gets to exercise it. And its not Biden

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    Republicans immediately after trump was shot at:

    Political violence is never okay.

    Republicans 1 week after trump was shot at:

    If trump loses we’ll start killing people!

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    If we lose this election we will need to have a civil war to save the country? So what he’s saying, in essence, is that if Trump can’t get enough support to win an election, his supporters should overthrow the government. Am I understanding that correctly?

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    Kyle Gass makes an edgy joke and he gets canceled. This fucker calls for literal civil war and it’s considered business as usual. Got it.

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      But Kyle Gass is much more influential, he decides policies and laws and swore an oath to serve the people while George Lang is just a musician.

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    Oh no! What will we do if morbidly obese 70 year-old slobs who are so afraid of cities that they think they need a gun to visit San Francisco start a civil war? How will we ever defeat the sandy vagina brigade that thinks a reality TV host is a big a strong man?

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      San Fran? I live in rural America and I see twits like this at the grocery store. They are too scared to go buy a gallon of milk without being strapped.

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    The temperature is definitely rising. I’d be lying if I said I’d be cool with Republicans succeeding at keeping Harris (or whoever the Dem pick is) off the ballots in any state - we have a questionable democracy right now… we’d definitely not have a democracy then.

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        And there is a majority of Americans ready to tell those dumb nerds to shut up with their boring nonsense

        But since they’ve got a broken electoral system and the billionaires on their side it could go either way

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        And those same mendacious, disingenuous fuck-knuckles get pseudo-patriotism boners when Trump whips out the “I took a bullet for democracy” line, without an ounce of shame or even self-awareness.

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      Your definition of democracy seems to hinge on your own whims.

      Your desperation to invalidate democracy based on a switching of candidates shows two things… 1 shit happens… not too different as the decades pass, and 2 you don’t understand the meaning of “democracy” and are desperate to just talk shit…

      Dems switching candidates doesn’t invalidate democracy it just shows how desperate you are to discount it…

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        What? I’m talking about Republicans suing to keep a democrat off the ticket - that’s a much different ball game than the convention. I want an open process in both arenas without tampering.

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        Way to completely miss what he said there. He said “with republicans SUCCEEDING AT KEEPING HARRIS OFF OF THE BALLOTS”. How the fuck does this drivel have so many upvotes when it completely misses the argument.

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    Odds are there will be no real civil war. The assault on the capitol only worked because Trump was in power letting it happen, and even then they didn’t get too far. A lot of those assholes went to prison.

    Go vote and let them attack the US gov.

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        I believe them and that’s why I want to have them start a civil war. It’s the best way to purge these elements and it won’t take days to do so, more like minutes.

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      A lot of those assholes went to prison.

      Except one particular asshole that is still running for Presidency.

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      People are too comfortable to have a civil war. People will rebel when they’re hungry, jobless, and have zero prospect for the future.

      It’s gonna have to get a lot worse before then if a war were to happen.

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          Things were not going well in 1860 for black people.

          Also, the north couldn’t compete economically with the south because the south had all the free labor and longer growing season.

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              Those blockades came in 1861, but for decades prior, the white people in the south prospered off of their free labor. The south was wealthy and its economy was rapidly growing. That all went to shit for them when as you said the UK stopped buying their cotton.

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            It was my understanding that the North was economically surpassing the South leading up to the Civil War as they embraced technological advancements in transportation, manufacturing, and agriculture.

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              They were still struggling to compete with the free labor of the south if I am not mistaken.

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      God… them doing it again and thinking Trump will just pardon them again and the cops will “Stand down”…

      That would…

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    Honestly, at this point I’m getting tired of them saying it all the time.

    Do it.

    It would not go the way they think it would go, and the confederate/nazi/MAGA party would be swiftly defeated within days/hours. They do not have the support they think they have, most Americans don’t let politics run their lives and Fox poison their brains and a civil war would actually wake those Americans up to the seriousness of what’s going on right now.

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      At the end of the day, starting a whole-ass war because some people get to have a better life than the bible says they should just isn’t a good cause. It sucks that a lot of people think otherwise.

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      Not with a supreme court that’s willing to say Unicorns exist for the sake of a legal argument. Law means nothing in this land for republicans right now.

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      It should be noted that a large swath of that act has been overturned by the supreme court in the decades since the 40s.

      It’s where we get the distinction between “advocating for revolution” and “telling people to revolt, now”.

      One is protected because “violent revolution” in an abstract sense is a protected political policy position.
      The law was originally used to target unionists and socialists who said we needed to tear the system down and rebuild it, by force if necessary.

      What isn’t protected is an imminent call to action or direct incitement to lawlessness.

      Advocating for the ability to do something that violates the current law is the only way to advocate for changing a law.

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    So they’re moving on to this to scare people from voting because they know they’re absolutely fucked right now. Fuck that nonsense, VOTE. Volunteer to help give rides to people that otherwise wouldn’t be able to vote.

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    Save the country from what exactly? Save it from gay rights? Save it from trans rights? That’s it isn’t it? They want to save the country from human fucking rights.

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    They invoke “civil war” phrase every time they feel threatened, and then wonder why their candidate faced an assassination. Who do they think is the dumbass here? Their voters? Or the opposition?

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    Not to make light, but one does not simply “start a civil war”. A civil war needs armies and territory. It is just terrorism without those.

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    Bring it the fuck on. Don’t mistake a distaste for violence for an unwillingness to fight would-be oppressors.

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      It’s so funny that these people will then turn around and deny all of the violence and unrest brought about by MAGA.

      Charlottesville, January 6th, the attack on Paul Pelosi, the attempted kidnapping, torture and execution of Gretchen Whitmer, I could go on. They even wrote 900 pages on how they want to dismantle decades of progress in the US.

      They then have the audacity to say that it’s the democrats who need to “turn down the rhetoric” and stop trying to take away their rights?

      It’s maddening.

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      I’ll never forget the Florida Republican that rammed his car into a Prius and shot at the driver, learning your statement the hard way.