As long as she falsely claims Israel has the right to defend itself, everything else she says is noise.
She […] denounced Hamas as a brutal terrorist organisation that triggered the war
Harris, you’re wrong and you know it. This is only the latest battle in a war that has been going on for decades.
And the word you’re not saying is genocide.
Israel helped Hamas gain power intentionally. Defending Hamas is defending Israel, just as defending Israel is defending Hamas.
Genocide Joe bots and trolls in shambles
Enough with words. We have had almost 10 months of them. Just another talker I bet.
I feel that, but to be fair she’s not in a position to do much more than promise at the moment.
I think it’s an encouraging sign that she’s not trying to duck the issue, the way she could. That’s not a guaruntee she’ll take real action, but if she’s distancing herself from Biden on this even before she gets the nomination it’s a good sign.
I think it’s easy to forget just how extreme Biden is on this issue. Harris is your average democrat, but she’s still not ideological like Biden is, most aren’t. Biden went so far as to go around Obama to make promises to Israel when he was VP, I don’t see Harris having that kind of unquestioning desperation to help the right-wing Israeli government.
Thank you for explaining your point of view so well, much appreciated!
It’s easy to say things in the run up to election. I’ll wait and see what she actually does when/if she is elected
Netanyahu: “Please stop withholding weapons and support, please seriously guys cut it out”
TIME Magazine: “Is Netanyahu dragging out the conflict for political benefit?”
Biden: “There is every reason for people to draw that conclusion.”
Kamala Harris: “I will not be silent.”
Hexbear: “Congress gives Netanyahu Standing Ovation, blood on hands of every US lawmaker, US President personally responsible for tens of thousands of deaths directly.”
Did you watch the video?
Republicans gave Netanyahu a standing ovation.
Dozens of Democrats abstained, the ones who attended remained seated, and Rashida Tlaib held up a sign that said “war criminal.”
I insult Hexbear at every opportunity, bunch of dictator cocksuckers they are.
Sure, fuck hexbear…but congress literally did give a standing ovation to a mass murderer, there is no getting around that reality. That’s not me, it was literally on NPR. Biden is a staunch supporter of mass murder who has blood on his hands.
Hexbear being full of tankies doesn’t make it ok to support genocide.
Apart from all the members of congress who remained seated, as was already mentioned. I’m guessing neither AOC nor Bernie Sanders stood up and applauded if they were there.
To equate voting DNC to supporting genocide is disingenuous to its core.
I didn’t equate voting dem as genocide support. If you vote for a zionist though, that is active support of genocide. In that situation you’re signaling to the party that it’s acceptable to have genocide supporters in the party, as long as the other option is “worse”.
That’s a calculation you’re free to weigh for yourself, but it is still genocide support. Same way voting for an openly racist politician is in support of racism.
Have you not received your new talking points yet? Harris is not a zionist afaik.
Being opposed to genocide supporters is not a “talking point” it’s not a “trick”. Genocide is simply against the very core of my belief about how we’re meant to treat other human beings.
So when a Democrat supports genocide, I want them out of the party and I see those who choose to ignore that candidates genocidal views as complicit themselves as well since they are responsible for putting that person into as position of power despite knowing the ugly truth. Hopefully that’s clear enough for you to allow yourself to understand. It’s very odd to have to spell it out like this for you though.
Harris is not a zionist afaik.
Harris does not appear to be ideological like Biden, that is true and a promising sign, but that’s not really related to the point I’m making – while zionists like Biden and his supporters do obviously help keep the slaughter going, one doesn’t necessarily have to be a committed zionist to help fuel the genocide. One could choose to do it for any number of reasons (ex. cowardice, political convenience etc.), we will see if Harris’ actions match up with her rhetoric. She doesn’t get an automatic pass on being a moral human being, this isn’t a cult of personality like the GOP.
Ah yes, the truest sign of liberal enlightenment, casual homophobia,
You dont need to be male or even gay to suck cock, $20 is $20.
$20… Wait… why do I keep doing this for free?
Do you travel much? Asking for a friend.
Sucking cock is a fantastic thing to do for your fellow human, and a true friend loves and appreciates you for it.
But sucking the cocks of dictators, that’s something sensible people everywhere disapprove of. Pretty much every dictator has awful anti-LGBT+ rhetoric and inhumane anti-LGBT+ policies.
Don’t be dense. The poster above me was using “cocksucker” as an insult, which is a go-to homophobic insult, and I called it out. There’s no nuance or subtlety or dictionary lawyering that perfectly clearly expressed sentiment into being anything other than what it is.
Yes, but is there anything in what I said that you actually disagree with?
See, I think we agree, it’s just that I’m being more light hearted about it than you are. Good cop, bad cop, that sort of thing. You’re all “you’re nasty homophobe!” and I’m all “heyy, man, you should appreciate the blow jobs, not hate on them! But blow jobs are not for dictators.”
“it’s just a joke! i’m just joking! you need to lighten up!”
I never actually called you or anybody else a nasty homophobe, I called out a single comment for expressing a casual homophobic sentiment.
I used sucking the cock of dictators as an insult. Classic hexbear pos to remove all context to find some ground to shakily stand on.
Democrats give lip service after months of ongoing escalating protests while continuing to arm Israel. Leftists in shambles.
She’s going to say whatever she thinks will get her elected.
We can’t trust her as far as we can throw her. All this kamala hype is just manufactured by people who spent money.
It’s better than standing 100% behind Israel. Either way, I’ll believe it when I see it.
All this kamala hype is just manufactured by people who spent money.
This is the point I was trying to make.
So what do you suggest? The guy who’s already said he’s for genocide?
All this kamala hype is just manufactured by people who spent money.
This is the point I was trying to make.
I’m not trying to attack or dog pile on you, I just want the rubber meets road pragmatism of what the best action is. What’s the reality? I’m already aware neoliberals will not be progressives no matter how much you believe in fairies.
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I was asking an honest question, if you’re only about shit posting that’s genuinely disappointing.
Sure you were.
I’m all ears. Do you think I’m doing this for the sweet sweet 0 upvotes? Or the fact that no one reads nested comments unless they wrote them?
If only she were the current sitting vice president of the United states of America, I.e. was in a position of power where she and the other members of the executive branch could take action as well as “striking a tough tone”.
Actions, as always, speak louder than words.
Oh my god, nothing is enough for you people. She’s literally pushing for an immediate ceasefire and withdrawal of the Israeli military and advocating for a 2 state solution. Isn’t that precisely what we want?
Some of us do recognize Harris has no real power yet.
Also Israel should pay to rebuild.
How about we start with babysteps of not actively and vigorously committing genocide.
Historically the VP has been one of the weakest political positions when it comes to actual power or ability to effect change. Just depends on how much the cabinet/president listen to you.
The issue of Palestinian independence has been my longest standing position. I became interested in politics during the second inifada 20+ years ago. It’s been going on longer than that by a longshot.
This is the best we’ve seen in terms of statements. Let’s let her win before we condemn her for shit she can’t act on.
If she gets it and continues to pay lip service only, I’ll agree with your cynicism. Gods know I have enough to go around myself.
