Pennsylvania Governor and potential vice presidential nominee Josh Shapiro tries to distance himself from a recently uncovered op-ed he wrote in college in which he identified as a former volunteer in the IDF and argued that the Palestinians are too “battle-minded” to pursue peace with Israel.

Palestinians will not coexist peacefully,” Shapiro also wrote in the op-ed titled “Peace Not Possible.”

“They do not have the capabilities to establish their own homeland and make it successful even with the aid of Israel and the United States. They are too battle-minded to be able to establish a peaceful homeland of their own,” added the then-20-year-old.

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    I’m so glad all my thoughts from HS and college aren’t saved somewhere for people to use against who I am now. But I would really prefer someone else. I don’t like how powerful Israel is in our nations politics and would prefer someone with less connection right out of the gate unless he loudly and strongly denounce AIPAC on a regular basis

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    Shapiro is a bad pick, but Democrats always think that someone who appeals to conservatives is a good choice, so they might convince themselves that a moderate with strong support for Israel is a smart idea. Kamala has a lot of enthusiasm behind her at the moment; it would be a real shame if the Democrats found a way to kill that with a bad VP choice.

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    “Palestinians will not coexist peacefully,” Shapiro also wrote in the op-ed titled “Peace Not Possible.”

    “They do not have the capabilities to establish their own homeland and make it successful even with the aid of Israel and the United States. They are too battle-minded to be able to establish a peaceful homeland of their own,” added the then-20-year-old.

    Veep Not Possible.

    People need to take to whatever socials they might use to make it clear to the KH campaign that this asshole will tank her popularity. Just because he was much younger when he wrote that doesn’t make it ok when Israel is literally committing genocide and deliberately fouling up every opportunity for a ceasefire today. The world has had its eyes opened to what they’re doing in a way that cannot be denied ever again. This man made himself toxic with what he wrote and it’s his own fault that he isn’t qualified for the job.

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      Why do have no faith that the DNC will pick the best candidate that will help her win? I feel they will find a way to sabotage her run because they can’t let us have a progressive VP. They probably will choose this asshat or someone worse. I hope I am wrong.

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        Why do have no faith that the DNC will pick the best candidate that will help her win

        They picked Hillary, Tim Caine, and Biden. It’s not like they have a great track record in recent years.

        I feel they will find a way to sabotage her run because they can’t let us have a progressive VP

        Or she’ll tank it herself by revealing that, pretty speeches aside, her actual policies and ideals are completely dependent on what’s most advantageous for her at any given moment.

        I hope to be proven wrong, but other than being the first presidential candidate to ever mention the security and self-determination of Palestinians, (which is admittedly huge, as far as statements go) her record so far isn’t that convincing…

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    Well, I imagine having to constantly fear for one’s life due to neighbouring a country that wants you dead will make one battle minded. Maybe if the IDF and the Israeli government tried not being absolute bastards and instead sent assistance, Palestinians may start to not be battle minded?

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    Dismissing this as something he wrote when he was 20 and neither believes in nor stands for anymore is the reasonable thing to do. But we all know politics isn’t reasonable, and particularly not when it comes to this specific issue. It’s deeply emotional, and this will look bad to a lot of voters regardless of how unreasonable it is.

    I think picking Shapiro for VP would be risky.

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      I mean, it wouldn’t come back up for the vast majority of people so I’m not sure what you’re getting at.

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        Probably getting at the fact that he’s been a public figure for decades without recanting it, and only does so now that it might prevent him from getting a prestigious gig as VP.

        He hasn’t changed his mind, he’s just doing damage control.

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    For the love of God just pick Kelly as VP, he’s a fucking astronaut for christs sake

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        No, but it’s not like he’s just a random astronaut, he’s also a well respected senator.

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          Part of the issue is they don’t want to lose his Senate seat which was formerly held by McCain and by no means safe. It needs a strong defender like Kelly.

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    Don’t really want a VP who likes to stomp out student’s right to free speech. He belongs on a 90s ticket, not a 2024 run.

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      Shapiro: criticizes campus protests for their antisemitism, publicly reaffirms his commitment to a 2-state solution, and calls Netanyahu an “obstacle” to the solution Lemmy: OMG!!! Terrible human! Walz: criticizes campus protests for their antisemitism Lemmy: Yay!!!

      Edit: in case anyone actually cares about facts, the quotes are about the PLO and Arafat (you can find the whole op ed thing easily online and it’s like 1 page). He also describes his support for a 2 state solution in the article. He ends the article by saying that he hopes the two sides can get over themselves and stop fighting, despite his skepticism

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        Shapiro: criticizes campus protests for their antisemitism

        Which is a strawman. The protests are against genocide and in large part led by anti-zionist Jews.

        publicly reaffirms his commitment to a 2-state solution

        That’s what they all say to sound like they’re pro-peace without saying anything to endanger the legal bribes from AIPAC.

        and calls Netanyahu an “obstacle” to the solution

        Gonna need a source with full context on that one.

        the quotes are about the PLO and Arafat

        Oh, you mean the ones who were actually willing to negotiate in good faith and were then replaced by the initially Israel-funded terrorist group Hamas?

        He also describes his support for a 2 state solution in the article. He ends the article by saying that he hopes

        More empty rhetoric

        the two sides can get over themselves and stop fighting

        And a colossal false equivalence to go out on. Nice. 🙄

        despite his skepticism bribes from AIPAC