A new survey finds Harris substantially ahead of Trump among Latinos, a sign that she may be rebuilding the Democratic coalition—which is essential to defeating him.
    • fluxion@lemmy.worldEnglish
      56·
      3 months ago

      The surprise was that Trump somehow had latino support. This is more like getting unsurprised.

      • Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world
        39·
        3 months ago

        Latinos as a whole are conservative. They just aren’t batshit crazy.

        The GOP knows this and even started courting them after losing to Obama (I forget if it was after the first or second loss). The GOP “base” wouldn’t have it though, so they quickly went back to anti immigrant status quo.

        • BreadstickNinja@lemmy.worldEnglish
          61·
          3 months ago

          That’s a bit of a broad generalization. There are specific Latino immigrant communities that are definitely conservative for historical reasons, like Cuban or Venezuelan people who fled left-wing regimes, but Joe Biden got 66% of the overall Latino vote in 2020 so I wouldn’t say that Latinos on the whole are conservative.

          • harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            2·
            3 months ago

            I agree to an extent. I think many times, as humans are wont to do, they self-select themselves into different communities. Most of the South Americans I’ve met here are rabidly Mormon and will cluster together, avoiding non-Mormon latino communities.

            There’s definitely a generational difference where I live among the Mexicans.

            The over 40 ones are mostly conservative and wear pro-gun paraphernalia and have Trump stickers, and also speak little to no English. Which is sad because Trump and his kind would deport them or put them into labor camps without hesitation.

            The younger ones, some of whom are recent immigrants themselves, pretty much all lean towards the left. Especially the women. Most of the latinas under 40 I work with would probably punch a man who told them they should be making babies and sandwiches.

            I am definitely not Latino but because I speak Spanish (Mexico) and Portuguese (Brazil), I get to participate in conversations and make friends with more of my coworkers.

      • blargerer@kbin.melroy.org
        10·
        3 months ago

        Plenty of latino people identify as white. Another group have fled to the US from socialist countries like Cuba, and don’t like the left. Yet another have gone through the immigration process properly and resent the idea of others being able to bypass what they had to go through. (obviously there is some heavy overlap in these groups). When you add them all together its not an insubstantial % of latinos.

      • Phen@lemmy.eco.br
        3·
        3 months ago

        If Latino countries are anything like Brazil, it’s because it’s mostly the rightwing nut jobs who want to move to the States in the first place (and mostly Florida so they can stay within Brazilian communities and not have to adapt).

        Lots of people get very close to leopards to cheer on them as they eat people’s faces and ask for more.

      • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        3 months ago

        Why?

        Biden wanted to codify Trump’s border policies. It was only a few months ago Biden wouldn’t stop talking about it

        And sure trump would have been worse, but the alternative matters. Kamala doesn’t have that baggage.

        The only thing that would be surprising is if any demographic suffered losses from replacing Joe.

        • Revonult@lemmy.world
          4·
          3 months ago

          I have heard, but not sure about accuracy, that Latinos who are already here in the US support shutting down the border as it’s less competition and/or draws less attention from racisits persicuting all lationos regarless of immigration status. Kinda like a “got mine, fuck you” mentality which is very GOP.

          • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            3 months ago

            Some do, especially when you’re including the grandkids of wealthy Cubans who have never set foot outside the US.

            But when the actions are the same, the tone matters less.

            By matching trump on border policy, it lets a significant amount feel that they can support trump because “both parties are the same” on that topic.

            It doesn’t mean a gain for Democrats, just more people that don’t feel obligated to stop trump.

            It validates republican nonsense, and makes voters think maybe they were right about other stuff too. Just a massive fumble anyway you look at it.

            I mean, giving the president that power would have almost guaranteed Republicans always used it, so when a Dem would get office, they’d all try to cross then. Giving Republicans ammunition for the next election and making it more likely even Dems shut the border down.

            But Biden thought short term it would help him.

        • Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world
          11·
          3 months ago

          What makes you think Latino’s don’t like Trump’s border policies? Clearly, there is not a single representative Latino, but there’s certainly a significant portion that likes closed borders.

      • Rhaedas@fedia.io
        2·
        3 months ago

        I think it’s just generally Republican support from them, which is also odd given they don’t get much back from that support. I guess you could say that for many demographics too, but you’d think the racism edge would discourage minorities, and even encourage them to rally against the Right.

    • foggy@lemmy.world
      51·
      3 months ago

      I want to be a part of a community where it is against the rules to post clickbait articles titles without answering the clickbaity hook immediately.

  • Blackout@kbin.run
    25·
    3 months ago

    Democrats have to do everything perfect to get enough of a coalition to win.

    Republicans can openly be racist, ignorant about the law, trash on veterans/elderly/women, and still are in contention. I think it’s the so-called Christians that are lacking morals.

    • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
      13·
      3 months ago

      Interesting myth.

      No. Democrats have had a winning coalition that they refuse to lead with, which has cost them the advantage in 4 years elections since Obama.

      Democrats have winning politics that they refuse to engage in at the head of the party, and instead lead with corporate pay to play politics.

      The only people beating Democrats in elections since Obama is themselves.

      • nilloc@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        1·
        3 months ago

        The electoral college and 2 senators per state gives the Republicans a huge advantage.

        2 of the last 3 Republican presidential election “wins” lost the popular vote.

        Cornfields, prairie, and deserts have as much representation as NYC and LA.

        • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
          1·
          3 months ago

          You are just making wrong assumptions about the people that live in those places. Progressive policies are INCREDIBLY (poll at +80%) in those places.

          A strong progressive, Tim Walz, won a rural, cornfield-prarie-desert, district on those policies.

      • spongebue@lemmy.world
        11·
        3 months ago

        which has cost them the advantage in 4 years elections since Obama

        Maybe I’m misunderstanding what you’re trying to say here because this sounds incomprehensibly stupid, but just in case… There have been exactly two presidential elections since Obama. Democrats won one and lost the other. Everything else is involves a multitude of candidates voted in strictly at the state or district level.

  • solsangraal@lemmy.zipEnglish
    10·
    3 months ago

    coming soon: “i’ve been the best president for latino people since george washington!!”