A Florida jury has convicted a white woman accused of manslaughter in the shooting death of her Black neighbor amid an ongoing feud over the neighbor’s children.
  • Drusas@fedia.io
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    3 个月前

    The confrontation was the latest in a dispute between the two neighbors over Owens’ children playing in a grassy area near both of their houses. Prosecutors said Owens had come to Lorincz’s home after her children complained that she had allegedly thrown roller skates and an umbrella at them amid a long-running annoyance at their boisterous play outside.

    I can’t even imagine how hateful you have to be to behave as this woman did.

    I will admit that I find “boisterous play” annoying to have to hear. But I also recognize that children need to play and it’s my problem, not theirs. So I grumble and make jokes about getting a cane to shake at them. I don’t assault the children and then murder their mother, Jesus Christ.

    Of course, I’m also not racist, and I’m sure that was a factor here.

  • HelixDab2@lemm.ee
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    3 个月前

    Here’s a really good rule of thumb: don’t shoot someone that you feel threatened by until they break into your house. As long as they are outside–and not shooting at you through the door–you are not in imminent danger. This is a situation where you can readily call the cops and wait. If the neighbor had kicked the door in and come inside, then we’d be looking at a legitimate self-defense claim. But you will almost never get to claim self-defense if you’re shooting through a closed exterior door in your home at someone outside of your home.

    If you’re going to carry for self-defense, the most important thing you can learn is de-escalation, so that you don’t murder someone.

    • hddsx@lemmy.ca
      0·
      3 个月前

      Even if you are in imminent danger, maybe don’t shoot through a door to the outside? Responsible gun owners should be aware of the target and what’s beyond it. That’s really hard to do if there’s a door between you. She could have missed the person pounding the door and hit a kid or something.

      • HelixDab2@lemm.ee
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        3 个月前

        My point is that it’s not imminent danger when there’s a hard barrier between you and them.

        But yes, unlike cops, normal people are responsible for every single bullet that leaves their gun, regardless of their intentions.

        • hddsx@lemmy.ca
          0·
          3 个月前

          Well, not unless you’re pretty sure you’re the only bluefor and the building is swarming with opfor… at that point I would shoot through a door. But pretty much only then

          • HelixDab2@lemm.ee
            1·
            3 个月前

            “Opfor” and “bluefor” isn’t a thing outside of military operations, and the military has entirely different rules of engagement than civilians do. I’m pretty sure that even cops intentionally firing blindly through a door are risking getting charged with murder.

    • mosiacmango@lemm.ee
      3·
      3 个月前

      She had a gun, which is the right the 2nd amendment gives you.

      It doesnt give you the right to kill other people because you feel like it.

    • conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works
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      3 个月前

      A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right to shoot your neighbors shall not be infringed

      How could they miss that critical protection?

      • hime0321@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        3 个月前

        The 2nd amendment says “a well regulated militia” and we do not have that. So maybe it’s fuck the politicians that keep our guns poorly regulated. That is what is doing more harm than good. The second amendment is designed to allow citizens to defend themselves from government tyranny not to have guns just for shits and giggles.

        • Buffalox@lemmy.world
          2·
          3 个月前

          I know, and I don’t know how the “well regulated” part got to be completely ignored? But that’s how it is.