Trump told Benjamin Netanyahu in one call this month, “Do what you have to do,” according to six people familiar with the conversation who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive and confidential information. Trump has said publicly that the two have spoken at least twice in October, with one call as recently as Oct. 19.

“He didn’t tell him what to do militarily, but he expressed that he was impressed by the pagers,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina), who was on a call this month with Trump and Netanyahu, referring to the Israeli operation that killed Hezbollah leaders with explosive batteries inside pagers. “He expressed his awe for their military operations and what they have done.”

Graham added: “He told them, do what you have to do to defend yourself, but we’re openly talking about a new Mideast. Trump understands that very much there has to be change with the corrupt Palestinian state.”

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    Of course not. These protests are about saying “we want to vote for you, but we need to see you do something about this”

    Republicans being bloodthirsty fascists is a given, Democrats aren’t supposed to be. Kamala’s campaign should be the one messaging how awful Trump would be for Gaza, not random forum posters, but they don’t because she doesn’t have any functionally different policy on that than Trump.

    I don’t get why this is hard to grasp.

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      If you voted uncommitted in the primaries - rock on brother, you were part of sending a strong message to the DNC.

      If you plan on voting anyone but Harris in the general election - get fucked, you’re accelerating the genocide.

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      You know what virtually every 3rd party advocate like you doesn’t say? Anything about how the 3rd party candidate would be good for Americans’ day to day life.

      What will your 3rd party candidate (lets ignore the fact that not a sigle post advocates an actual candidate)do for me that directly impacts me and my family’s life? Will they fund social security? Are they advocates for ranked choice voting? Are they pro choice? Are they pro universal Healthcare? How about corporate reform? Dark money in politics? Net nutrality? Fucking crickets on all these topics from yall.

      If you would get off the ONLY topic you all spew, maybe, just maybe, you could change some minds. The 3rd party push is so disingenuous, it’s just as bad as Republicans who only vote for Trump due to him helping overturn Roe v Wade.

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          If you are not a 3rd party advocate, are you one of the nonvoters? Potatoe potahtoe

          Look, neither of the candidates are perfect across the board. One candidate is by far the better one for my family being mixed race, immigrant family members, mostly women, most work public service and some are on medicade and social security. One candidate is staunchly against all of that. The 3rd party candidates are ghosts on all of those topics.

          One candidate is giving Israel carte blanch to do what they want and to “get the job done”. The candidate I’m voting for is not aligned with how I want that situation handled, but it is less bad than “do what you want”.

          If I don’t vote or if I vote 3rd party, or I vote Trump, I can’t live with how my family and I will potentially be treated.

          That leaves me one fucking choice that isn’t 100% what I want, but 80% is way better than the alternatives.

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            Both parties are the “get the job done” party. This administration has continued to give unconditional aid to Israel, and has not done anything remotely resembling a penalty to them for conducting a genocide. The only difference is the rhetoric.

            I’m not saying don’t vote for Kamala, I hope she wins. My point is that all this anger should be directed at the party for alienating large swaths of the population that should be their base. I can empathize with someone who has family in Palestine or Lebanon that does not feel like they can in good conscience vote for the party that is supplying bombs being dropped on their loved ones.

            This should be an easy win, Donald Trump is an incredibly unpopular candidate, and we should be outraged at the Democrats for making misstep after misstep in this campaign.

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      Well then you’re about to get what you want. You’ll teach her a lesson. Congratulations. Hope it’s fucking worth it.

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        Lmao they’re not going to learn anything. Their takeaway will be “we didn’t try hard enough to capture moderate Republicans” and shift further to the right.

        Instead of getting mad at people for not voting for a candidate that doesn’t align with their interests, maybe you should be mad at the Democratic party for running a dogshit campaign. Even from a pragmatic point of view, its a lot easier to put pressure on the party than to yell at hundreds of thousands of people with varying reasons for not wanting to vote for her.

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          Oh good. At least you’re aware you’re killing Palestinians, taking away women’s bodily autonomy, persecuting immigrants, and pushing the Democrat party further right. I guess I appreciate your honesty.

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            Crazy how you can look at the Democratic administration taking zero action on any of those things and somehow make it my fault, but go off king.

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          I’m deeply pissed off at democrats for a lot of shit… I’m still not willing to murder women or Palestinians to express it.

          If Trump is elected, women will die easily preventable deaths and he has promised to accelerate the genocide.