Real question: what do anarchists expect society to do/become and why is it better?
Nuanced answers only
So if you ask a group of 5 leftists of any sort how they imagine society might be structured you’ll get 6 answers. Anarchists are no different, it’s difficult because it’s off the map yeah?
The common thread is a society with no involuntary impositions of power and authority. That isn’t no rules, many societies in the past and present have varying degrees of hierarchy and even within the same society the degree of hierarchy can change depending on what groups of people are doing.
you know how when you organise a family gathering nobody is “in charge” exactly? people select tasks they are suited to or feel it’s their turn to do and go about doing them. People might choose to defer decisions to another person but always retain the ability to withdraw that consent and so on?
Anarchists imagine a society more like that, where when a person wants something done they assemble a group of people, communicate their ideas, reach a consensus on whether it should or shouldn’t be done, if people agree then they organise themselves into a group to accomplish the task.
It’s really not so different from how you probably conduct yourself most of the time. It’s actually kinda rare for people to use coercive violence to get people to cooperate. Anarchists think we can all just take a few more steps towards being anarchists all the time.
As to why would it be better? well what feels better: cooking at a community gathering or working at a restaurant with your boss breathing down your neck?
This sounds a whole lot like the indigenous peoples of various lands until the imperial machines of war rolled them over. These days, I don’t think you need a military budget rivaling America’s, but I think some form of military defensive structures would need to remain in place to protect your massive hippie nation-state from opportunistic neighbors.
oh yes, defensive militias are necessary. Communities need to be able to protect themselves.
Fortunately if we’ve learned one thing recently it’s that modern nation states are extremely bad at fighting decentralised resistance. So you don’t necessary need a giant mechanised army in order to be enough of a pain to make invading you infeasible.
The problem with this isn’t military, it’s that it doesn’t work at scale. Even within a family unit it’s hard enough getting six people to agree on anything, and that’s when two of them hold power over the other four.
Of those tribes you mentioned that work how you describe, how many had more than, oh, 50 members?
No involuntary impositions of power and authority is the centrist position. The anarchist position should be no impositions of power and authority even if they are voluntary. A perfect example of voluntary power and authority is wage labor. By any usable standard, wage labor is voluntary. Anarchists should object to wage labor because it involves a hierarchy of alienation. This violates workers’ inalienable rights, which are rights that can’t be given up even with consent
When somebody asks for an intro to anarchism I generally don’t feel it’s super useful to get deep into the weeds of definitions.
The salient point is no “I’m your boss do what I say or you starve” maybe “You asked me to teach you, practice these tasks or find another teacher”
I am using the conventional definition of voluntariness. It is the people that are suggesting that wage labor is involuntary that are using unconventional definitions of the notion of voluntariness.
Even if this more expansive notion of voluntariness was coherent, it would not be an argument against capitalism per se because capitalism can have a UBI.
Hopefully, a teacher does not steal the positive and negative fruits of the student’s labor
What if I’m really into impositions of power and authority though? Like REALLY into it??
It’s fine, we don’t kink shame here
Abolishing slavery did not prevent people from acting in a manner they wished. It prevented them from having the lack of rights of a slave. Similarly, preventing people from being wage laborers just means that that working in a firm would automatically confer voting rights over the firm and make management democratically accountable to the people that work in the firm
I think you replied to the wrong comment? I was making a sex joke lol
No involuntary impositions of power and authority is the centrist position.
Lol! No.
You read Ian M Banks Culture series? The organization of the culture there seems pretty similar. (Though far future)
kinda? the society essentially has benevolent gods handling everything so idk what can be translated to our world
So, honest question, genuinely not here to argue but to learn: how is this approach scalable to a society of millions, or even billions? What are some thoughts on this?
It seems to me that any society in history that operates this way successfully consists of small groups of people living very differently than we generally do today, often sharing a common ethnic or familial bond or some common purpose. Although I’m sympathetic to anarchism in principle and in smaller groups, human society seems to have gone beyond any hope of a successful anarchic turnover long ago. Any breakdown of societal order seems to result in bad actors taking advantage, even when such developments seem positive at first. And any positive ahierarchical community that becomes too big eventually becomes corrupted it seems.
This is sort of way too big for a lemmy comment haha.
I think if you’re interested then it’s the sort of thing maybe best learned from books directly. Anything I try and write will be an extremely crude summary pre mangled through my own imperfect understanding.
You could read about what the CNT/FAI did to manage a war economy, they learned on the fly pretty quick. Conquest of bread is good to lay out the sort of fundamentals. Murry Bookchin’s works are pretty influential. Other’s probs have other suggestions.
I think if you’re interested then it’s the sort of thing maybe best learned from books directly.
I agree, thanks for the recommendations! Exactly what I was looking for.
Onya! Even if you end up thinking it’s all a load of horse shit it’s worth learning about. It’s a very different lens to the hierarchical society (and long history of such) most English speaking people are used to.
Oh if you like reading just random essays and rebuttals and so on browsing anarchists library can be interesting too.
There are examples of libeterian socialist societies today (chiapas, rojava) and historically (spain, ukraine etc.). What’s common with both is that they have to put up with relentless attacks from capitalists and fascists. Yet despite that they, in the case of rojava and chiapas, have prevailed.
If you think anarchism can only work in small communities then there are anarchist theories focusing on smaller communities, like Bookchin.
Revolution also isn’t something that happens in a day and suddenly you have to re-strucure all of society. During and before the revolution you are already creating these anarchist structures so when you get to that point you are prepared. Working with mutual aid for example doesn’t just help people now but train ourselves to live a different life based on solidarity. I believe that even if anarchism will never happen it still worth pursuing these different forms of organisation. This is partly because I am fairly confident capitalism, at least globally, will collapse. Climate change among other things will see to that. What will come after might truly be horrific but I believe anarchism is going to be the only real alternative to it if we want to live truly free.
This seems very naive and superficial, which is, as far as I know, what other philosophers criticise about anarchism.
a group of people, communicate their ideas, reach a consensus on whether it should or shouldn’t be done, if people agree then they organise themselves into a group to accomplish the task
That’s exactly how the state as a concept came into existence. How are we not currently living in the consequence of what people reached out of anarchy? It seems like we are already living what anarchists suppose will happen in an anarchist society.
It’s actually kinda rare for people to use coercive violence to get people to cooperate.
looks at human history What?
cooking at a community gathering or working at a restaurant
What does that have to do with anarchism?
I’m super exhausted but you’re wrong about the state. The modern nation state comes out of the directorate post French revolution, and the proto state going back to like Ur and other early cities in Mesopotamia was based off slave taking by warriors primarily, enabled by appropriation of grain. Anthropologist James C Scott writes about this a fair bit, he’s notably not an anarchist btw if that affects assessment of bias.
re coercive violence: I mean it in the sense that it is something individuals don’t spend much time doing. Obviously when you look at millions of people over decades it happens but it is much much less common than consensus seeking. Think of the ?millions? of interactions people have and how few involve violence or the threat thereof.
What you misunderstand is that the same thinking you want to apply now lead to these first cities. They thought that was consensus then as well. We only in hindsight decided that, for example, it is unjust if people are enslaved or not allowed to vote. It still started with communities making up their rules and these grew. It’s the same thing as what anarchists are proposing is the way to do it.
You just have to look at any society without police and a legislative to see that they all oppress those who are perceived as weaker. Usually it is kids and women who don’t have rights in these communities.
no they didn’t. They built walls to stop the population fleeing into the surrounding hills.
Re police I think you should look into the history of them. Peelan policing as an ideal has some neat ideas but it was still essentially a compromise with aristocracy. It’s very interesting.
No police doesn’t mean no safety shit. I have arthritic thumbs and my dog is freaking out in storm, Angela Davis writes interesting things about modern cops if curious. a bit usa centric but interesting nonetheless.
You need to revisit your anthropology. Complex societies like chiefdoms and states arise with the ability to own and accumulate private property which in turn leads to the ability to control resources.
I’m not an anarchist and don’t know a lot about it, I just think it is important to discuss the matter on a sound factual basis.
Most people have a very flaws understanding of anarchism. It absolutely is NOT a society without rules, that’s chaos and where the most physically powerful will rule, which is objectively a terrible thing and a big step backwards.
Anarchism is not really a system of government, but the philosophical belief that there should not be a heiarchy in societal laws. It can be applied in many different forms of goverment, most commonly with democracy but there are plenty of anarcho-communist out there. The gist is that systems that promote one group being shown favor, especially at the expense of another, should be dismantled. And what replaces it should be set up to serve and protect all people evenly.
This usually means police abolition and refocusing that energy on the underlining reasons people break “the law”. Like providing a minimum level of housing, income and food to all.
I can’t summerize the books succiently, but if you are interested The Dispossed and The Conquest of Bread deals with more examples.
This usually means police abolition and refocusing that energy on the underlining reasons people break “the law”. Like providing a minimum level of housing, income and food to all.
Do these people really believe only homeless and poor people are hurting other people?
Of course no one believes that, don’t make hyperbolic strawmen. But you can’t deny that poverty definitely drives a nontrivial percentage of crimes, and we have plenty enough resources to end poverty. Let’s do that, and the remaining actual sociopaths can stay in prison for life. (But also let’s make prison no longer a place where we torture and enslave people.)
Many conversations I’ve had with leftist here on lemmy have resulted in them claiming that all crime is either a crime of greed or poverty. No hyperbole. It’s infuriating trying to talk with some of them on these topics because they simply will not accept that there are other forms of crime or violence… No crimes of passion, etc.
That’s only for economic crime, think theft. There can only be theft out of greed or necessity. The handful of cleptomaniacs that steal for personal satisfaction are such a small percentage that it’s not worth discussing.
Anything like a crime of passion is probably murder or something along those lines. Less directly related to money.
No honest leftist I’ve ever talked to has denied that, but they’re largely not relevant to the ideas around the restructure of society. Any system is gonna have an angry spouse making horrible choices.
Of course. No true Scotsman. Right.
No true Scotsman would claim I’m making that argument because they’re full of it. I’m not claiming that those people wouldn’t be real leftists. I’m saying they aren’t real.
Crimes of greed and poverty make up the vast majority of crimes though. And hierarchical systems do a shitty job of preventing those crimes anyway (since they focus on individual punishment rather than communal restoration of justice).
How do you not see the irony here?
Can you explain it to me? Genuine question.
Who will put them into prison though and run the prison if there’s no police?
Who will pay for the prison?
Prisons don’t work.
But that’s what the person I reacted to suggested:
Let’s do that, and the remaining actual sociopaths can stay in prison for life.
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Restructuring society around principles of Mutual Aid and other forms of Cooperative systems. Participatory Economics, for example, is a promising idea.
The chief philosophy is a rejection of all hierarchy, but not a rejection of order or society.
Looking at the replies it seems anarchism is about having strong yet diverging opinions on the definition of anarchism
Ooh, just like libertarianism!
(Don’t tell the anarchists I made that comparison)
Libertarianism original referd to anarchism actually. The modern usage of ultra-capitalist nonsense comes from people intentionally redefining the word cause they were mad that Liberalism no longer referd to what they were doing
They’re doing the same thing now with Anarchism, hence Anarcho-Capitalism.
Libertarian still means anarchist pretty much everywhere, the US is the only place I know where it doesn’t. Ancaps don’t really exist outside of the US too at least not in any numbers to be relevant.
To be fair, AnCaps are irrelevant in the US as well, the GOP and DNC swallow the vast majority of mainstream politics. Everything else meaningful is grassroots.
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As a libertarian socialist whos about three steps away from anarchism. They probably are giggling at you.
Don’t worry, there are anarcho-libertarians.
That’s just the general leftist experience. From Marxist-Leninists to Orthodox Marxists to Anarcho-Communists to Anarcho-Syndicalists to Democratic Socialists to Left Communists (ICP flavor) to Left Communists (Dutch/German flavor) to Libertarian Socialists to Market Socialists to Marxist-Leninist-Maoists to Dengists to Council Communists to everything in between, each seemingly hates the guts of the others.
Ask any one from each of these and they will all have a general “worker ownership of the Means of Production is good” base, with about a million different takes on what that actually means and what that actually looks like.
In general, I think it’s safe to say that democracy is a good thing, decentralization helps protect against Authoritarianism, and moving towards a Stateless, Classless, Moneyless society is a good thing. Until then, people should learn and improve their understanding as much as possible, teach others, organize local communities and unions, and work on self-improvement.
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Different
Some people are so negatively affected by society and its structures, literally anything would be better.
See: Brodie in Dogma.
Some people are very shortsighted and don’t comprehend how bad it can get. No one living in a G20 country can accurately make this claim
I don’t actually know all that much about it, but the anarchists that I know are all about communities and mutual support and stuff. So I guess they think government is bad and communities supporting each other is good.
Personally I wonder what they’d call it when a community gets really good at providing a particular type of support and they agree to pool their resources to efficiently provide said support to all members of the community.
Yes yes and then they discover that managing that shared pool of resources is quite the job so they all decide on a few key people to take on the task with specific roles. I think we’re going somewhere with this!
So? Rotating certain roles in society is part of anarchist theory and common practice in anarchist organizations. Besides anarchists aren’t opposed to assigning certain roles or managing resources. The point is how you do it i.e by actual democratic means.
But nobody is appointed any role for life or until a higher boss says so, this is the key difference. Also the decisions on that role are not done in a vacuum, they can’t give orders and expect anyone to blindly follow it and never question. They have to be aligned with what the community wants, and if the person doesn’t act accordingly anyone can step in.
Just how though? How does this get agreed upon without some threat of violence or top down hierarchy.
Consensus. And those who don’t agree are free to separate and do their own thing based on their own consensus.
If you can’t get the consensus/consent of the people your ideas will impact, you have no right to execute on those ideas.
Cooperatives do that. Hippie communities did it to some degree. Elected politicians swearing on representing the people who voted for them, in principle, should do the same thing.
And you know what would be great? If the truly anarchist communities where this actually happened were left to their own devices instead of being interfered by big bad countries who are afraid of “communism”
managing that shared pool of resources is quite the job
No, it really isn’t… people have done that for millenia.
Not for the population numbers of modern nations, though. Managing a little town is one thing, millions of people is another.
Not for the population numbers of modern nations, though.
No-one is qualified to make decisions for that many people, Clyde - the limits of hierarchical power systems is pretty evident.
Managing a little town is one thing, millions of people is another.
Do you really think Biden himself decides which pothole in your street will be fixed today? Decentralizing power is not some arcane mystery.
You’re basically describing a coop.
The thing is that these resources could get withdrawn in case that community can’t won’t supply that support anymore.
Personally I wonder what they’d call it when a community gets really good at providing a particular type of support
Most of them would say, “close enough.”
Most people talking about anarchy just want to f*** some s*** up because they feel powerless or threatened or boxed in. But that’s not what anarchy is or how it functions as a community structure.
A good way to think about anarchism as an actual community structure, as a commune, is to think about the native Americans pre colonization.
Anarchism is not the absence of societal or authority structures, it’s freedom to create your own rules within your community and exist separately from other communities.
So each native American tribe had their own rules and their own territory and within that territory their rules were absolute, but 20 mi over other tribe had their own rules and territory and their rules were absolute.
It’s actually pretty similar to the idea of having separate states that get to make their own laws in the United States(guns and prostitutes are fine in one state but get you years of prison in another), except that anarchy has only worked in small groups because unless you have strict rules within each community, one bad actor can spoil an entire community of 200 people.
So after your tribe grows too large(a state) it’s unsustainable without smaller communities(towns) within your tribe using bureaucracy/authority to keep people in line.
So after your tribe grows too large(a state) it’s unsustainable
This is just a baseless trope with zero evidence to back it up - there is no theoretical upper limit on horizontal organizing. None.
What is a baseless trope? It doesn’t sound like you’re using “trope” correctly.
There’s no theoretical upper limit to many concepts, rendering that comment irrelevant, but anarchism historically has a practical upper limit on group size and proximity. You can’t indefinitely grow your population without taking logistics and territory into account, and the lack of centralized resource management necessitates territorial expansion.
It sounds like maybe you have a question. You can ask that question.
rendering that comment irrelevant,
No, Clyde… you elevated this to “relevance” when you, with zero proof to back it up, proposed a theoretical upper limit to horizontal organizing.
You.
You can’t indefinitely grow your population without taking logistics
Oh gee… you used a big, fancy word like “logistics” that anarchists couldn’t have possibly heard of in the more than hundred years of anarchist organizing and theorizing - I guess you completely owned them, huh?
More on that note in “The Dawn of Everything” by David Graeber and David Wengrow.
The book is flawed but in some points simply enlightening.
Wrong. Most people who consistently only support hierarchy without logic or critique also support laws without basis
A dismantling of hierarchies of all kinds. No rulers, no masters. The people would manage themselves.
It’s better because it’s a society based on mutual aid instead of exploitation. There are different theories about how exactly it will look like or how you get there. But overall most agree that it’s a non-hierarchical society, based on self-management and federalism. Decisions are made through direct democracy. If you want to read more there is a good chapter about it here Final Objectives: Social Revolution and Libertarian Socialism.
How will you stop people from exploiting others?
By removing the legal means that enable exploiters, e.g. private proterty.
The legal means also protect property. Otherwise someone who is stronger can just take whatever they like from someone who is weaker.
I specified private property (absentee ownership), which is distinct from personal property (active usage ownership).
A house that I live in: personal property. A house I rent to someone else so they can live in it: private property.
That doesn’t change anything, does it? What’s stopping people from kicking me out of whatever place I am living in because they want it instead?
The self-defensive mechanisms established by the community I live in.
Anarchism doesn’t mean that humans can’t form societal structures. It just means that decisions are made bottom-up instead of top-down.
Hierarchical society doesn’t stop anyone with “higher rank” from claiming my house e.g. to build a highway or coal mine.
They don’t really expect society. Society relies on rules and common understanding, actual anarchy would lack society.
Anarchy is order. Rules and comon understandings are kinda central to anarchist theory. Anarchy is a common understanding.
It’s also impossible. All you need to overthrow the whole system is a small group of dissidents.
These two statements seem at odds.
How would they do that?
For example by positioning themselves along a river and demanding payment from anyone who draws water.
Or by crafting weapons and demand payment from anyone who doesn’t pay.
Or seek control through other threats, like poisoning food.
Really, the possibilities are endless…
An anarchist society doesn’t mean that the people of that society can’t defend themselves in nonviolent and violent ways.
Furthermore: why would those “dissidents” even start such behavior?
Edit (addendum): Seriously: Do you really think that over 150 years of anarchist theory didn’t think of those scenarios and how to prevent them?
Anarchist theory almost exclusively talks about political motivated crime they propose will stop when the state and all it’s structures are abolished.
Non-political crime they mostly only brush over and suggest the communities will handle it themselves.
So no, they don’t have a concept of how people are supposed to protect themselve from crimes that aren’t politically motivated.
In the real world practice of small-scale egalitarian societies, these people either get killed, or the group packs up and goes somewhere else. That’s how humanity lived for the hundreds of thousands of years before we invented agriculture.
How we translate that into a contemporary agricultural context where private property and control of resources is a real force is beyond me, but I do think that we have to try.
Agreed.
You need to stop basing your political know-how on Mad Max movies.
Agreed
To be fair, all entertainment media carries a political subtext, and Mad Max Fury Road had an interesting one - which is why it’s one of the few AAA movies made in the last decade that’s actually worth watching all the way to the end - but that’s not the kind of thing you can discuss with the “if-you-want-anarchy-go-to-Sudan” crowd.
That’s not an argument that’s a poorly disguised insult to wit, get fucked bud make an argument or stay quiet.
Also mad max had communism and thus society, shitty society but still.
a poorly disguised insult
No, Clyde… I made no attempt to disguise the insult.
Also mad max had communism
You need another insult?
You didn’t say it straight out, you disguised it like a southern woman saying bless your heart. Similarly. … Bless your heart.
You haven’t actually made an argument, your simply being a loudouth douche, lots of bluster but zero substance.
“Mad Max had communism”
From the same people who brought you “everything I don’t like is communism”
You’re moron. There were a series of communes, it’s like 85% of the fucking movie ya dummy.
Ed: similarly I’m a socialist so your point makes even less sense cast in that light.
I gwess you missed the part of Fury Road where a political elite class had complete control over the means of existence for everyone else and literally owned breeding slaves.
Great communism, bro! /s
Ahh, so now it’s mad max: fury road, even your cinematic choice is changing at this point. Yes the masked tubby fuck was an oligarch or arguably a fascist, however the female led group they’re looking for the entire movie (you know the main plot) was a commune.
I do enjoy the shit talking from someone who’s objectively wrong, wildly overconfident and hedging while trying to play flippant, it’s adorable angsty teen shit.
Why would you need hierarchical command and controleformalized power structures (the thing anarchist oppose) for society?
Rules and common understanding naturally emerge when humans live together. You don’t need a king/chief/boss/god for that.
the aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community.
You aren’t anarchistic if you’re organized, that’s kind of the point.
That is simply not true. Anarchism opposes institutionalized hierarchies of command and control. There are anti-organisational cnrrents in anarchy but the vast majority of anarchists don’t oppose organization. Also, thereshave been too many anarchist organisations in history to count.
Name a single non hierarchical society, I’ll wait and you’ll make my point for me.
- The CNT/FAI in 1930s Cathalonia
- Anarchist Ukraine after the1918 revolution
- The Zapatistas
- Many pre-colonial native American tribes, e.g. The Wendat
- Pretty much any immediate-return hunter gatherer people, e.g. the Hadza or the pygmy
Most of humanity cooperating is non-hierarchical. Any DnD group is non-hierarchical. There is a DM, but they can’t stop me from saying “fuck you, that doesn’t happen! My character kills Gandalf with their hypnotic tits!”
I don’t get your point.
All of which developed heirarchy because all of society has heirarchy as heirarchy is a natural offshoot of society.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Catalonia
Controlled by a generaltariat and lasted less than a year.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symon_Petliura
Directed by Symon Petliura also lasted less than a year.
Famously named after Emiliano Zapata and lead by same who also specifically and repeatedly have stated they are not anarchist.
Native tribes are almost all communes lead by tribal counsel, I’m native so…
As for the hadza, maybe just maybe though I don’t actually believe it myself I would have to see it in action but I can pretty much guarantee “conflict is rare” doesn’t mean absent. “pygmy” aren’t a thing, that’s Dutch colonial nonsense which actually refers to any number of people distributed throughout the world.
Not at all, your example is junk. Who do you default to in dnd when there is a dispute? The dm because the dm is the authority and thus on top with players below, amusingly the dm guides are a higher authority.
No anarchy doesn’t necessarily mean no contracts it’s about having faith in a society upholding contracts without a need to rely on a government. Think of crypto itself. Now imagine enabling humanity to enforce this degree of accountability in the real world.
This is a cool thread you’ve started. Thanks for contributing to healthy discourse on lemmy :)
Whatever Dennis the Peasant from Monty Python and the Holy Grail is talking about
Plans and policy can be scrutinized and actualised with transparency, but with governments, problems happen sometimes
I think some anarchists are just angry. But “anarchy” as a type of government, means a society without leaders. (Anarchos means “without kings”) just people living peacefully, helping each other, without anyone really needing to be in charge.
For more info read V for Vendetta. The movie didn’t really cover this well, but the book makes it feel like the next stage of human evolution.
means a society without leaders.
You are correct… the word anarchos means “without kings.” Kings aren’t leaders, though… they are cogs of institutionalized power, just like CEOs and prime ministers. Nobody chooses to follow them - people are coerced into doing so through force.
So no… anarchists have no problems with actual leaders - they have plenty of examples of anarchist leaders themselves, Nestor Makhno just being one.
Servant leadership is also a thing
Eat soup, apparently?
From a most basic standpoint, nothing besides awareness, because the way i see it the world is and has always been Anarchy. We can make as many complex laws, rules and regulations as we want but the fact is that people can choose to break them. The reality of crime is proof that in the end personal decisions will always be a higher form of authority. We are mostly ok because most people choose to follow laws and there is more good in people and bad.
The difference is that right now we seem to live in a world where people really believe that they are born as subjects to serve. the notion to “earn a living” is a clear example. No one is born by choice, we where given a body and a mind just like any other species and we did what we needed to to grow up and survive in the socio-geological location we happened to be in.
Anarchism
gotta remember that can of soup so you can feed your family
Lol, I was also curious about the soup. Thank you for explaining.
P sure it’s for breaking windows actually.
Heh, but windows is broken by default. I use linux btw
Boooooo!
😂
No, it’s soup. Soup for my family.
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Imagine if it was Oneohtrix Point Never.
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I tend to feel this way until I get a good enough feel to say “compañero” hehehe
This is me, but theocracy with a God emperor + a tiny bit of mass genocide 🤑
Spice must flow
Most of my political comments (even just saying I am religious) usually gets me downvoted to oblivion, but my most extreme comment got upvotes, the duality of Lemmy lmao
It’s because we can tell you’re joking.
…you are joking, right?
Can proudly say I am not this time! :)
so just to confirm you are saying you would be okay with actual real life mass genocide to get the world you want
Basically, yeah, just a tad bit tho, sacrifices are necessary y’know
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Yeah best to be yourself rather than to hide your true self.
