”We asked 10 autistic people if they’d drunken milk before and 100% said yes, therefore more milk causes autism!“ - peta, probably.
Peta actually in the 90s.
drunken
It is a word, but not one he meant lol
I know “what shall we do with the drunken sailor” I just only put the one word to make it clear what I meant
also not to be rude it’s minor and I’ve done it myself plenty but as far as I can tell there’s no indication of their gender or pronouns in their bio or comment history should put they not he sorry if you know them from somewhere else don’t mean it to sound aggressive I’ve unconsciously assumed people on the internet are guys too before
I kinda just put it there automatically without thinking. Didn’t mean to misgender anyone, in case I did, sorry
yeah that’s what I thought I didn’t think it was midgendering or anything like I said I’ve done the same
Love your way of pointing out the accidental gendering. These are exactly the thoughts that are in my head when I want to correct someone on this.
If that was statistically significantly true, Sweden would be autism central. We have since sometime in the 70’s been giving our children milk with every meal.
When I was growing up through the 90s in America this was a pretty normal thing too. I drank a lot of milk as a child. Like I have a lot of anxiety now but other than liking trains I don’t really seem that autistic.
We had a huge campaign for kids to drink milk in the 80s and 90s. There was the ‘Milk: It does the body good’ ads, which became a pop culture sensation, and then they did the “where’s your mustache” ads where they had all kinds of supermodels and other celebrities drinking milk and showing a milk mustache.
Of course, the dairy industry is hugely subsidized in the U.S.
Basically, everyone in the U.S. born between about 1975 and 2005 should be autistic.
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Am I the only Autist who is extremely offended by people saying “this or that” causes Autism?
It’s annoying when corporations try to use the condition as a tool to further their bullshit arguments.
You should be offended, and PETA has been doing this forever to make people think eating animal or animal products is bad. But their assertion also implies autism is a negative thing, which is untrue.
You are absolutely right to be offended. I have neurodivergent people in my family. I love them dearly. I wouldn’t want them to be any different. My father (likely) had autism. He was a professor who got invited to lecture at the Sorbonne and wrote something like 30 books. My brother has autism. He makes far more money than I do because he’s a really good coder and he’s happily married. Neurodivergent people can live lives as full of success and happiness (and lack of success and unhappiness) as anyone else. They just do it differently.
Acting like autism is some sort of horror that parents should fear is disgusting.
On my way to work, there’s a house I always pass with an “autistic child” sign, a yellow square sign, next to the road. I just feel offended seeing it. Even if the individual in question could be low functioning, inattentive, actually at risk of walking into the street or something, that sign has probably been there past their childhood into adulthood, and a sign to announce your child’s autism to drivers is just… something else.
I would feel the same way. What the hell is wrong with just a Caution: Children sign?
it’s ironic because arguably society “causes” autism, if society wasn’t so fucked then things like autism and ADHD would just be quirks to take into account.
“oh yeah mary doesn’t like speaking to strangers so we tend to hang out together so it’s easier for her”
I hope the evidence is more substantial than the “link” between vaccines and autism…
Considering it’s from peta, there’s roughly a 100% chance it’s just total bullshit.
105% with a tolerance of 5%
Potentially 110%?
100% of autistic people who have lived past 30 have breathed air and drank water, but nobody is out here drawing the link between air and water…. The real danger.
Thousands of people got severely exposed to Dihydrogen Monoxide during 2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami and 2005 Hurricane Katrina, and subsequently died! It’s frankly baffling that people don’t talk more about this!
This was what lead to the idea that vaccines caused autism, Peta was pushing this crap in the 90s.
I’ve never heard peta mentioned in this context. Source?
These are all about the supposed link between milk and autism, not vaccines and autism.
I’ve realized that I poorly worded my earlier post, I meant that the claim that milk causing autism inspired the later claimed that vaccines cause autism, it was the first popularized claim that X consumable caused autism as far as I know of.
It’s peta, so probably not.
I wouldn’t be surprised if PETA was secretly funded by meat companies as a way to make the image of vegans look bad
People also said that about “Just Stop Oil”
studies have shown a link
Is a phrase that could mean anything and is, therefore, meaningless
Autistic people like milk: studies show a link.
My brother is autistic and a vegan. Ball’s in your court, PETA.
what can i say, it’s got a good texture
Holy shit. That’s bad. There were some very poor quality studies done on whether autistic people had a worse inflammatory reaction to A1 proteins than allistic people ( https://atypicalscience.org/a1-beta-casein/ ) but they were certainly not implying that milk causes autism or that autism has a “cause” that should be avoided.
I have done my own study and I also found a link between cows milk and autism. They are both on this image. Spooky stuff.
I found a link between milk and death.
Everyone who has ever drank milk has, or will, die.
Dihydrogen Monoxide is proven to be toxic to humans when injected and kills thousands of people every year.
Our waterways are completely riddled with this dangerous substance.
If you blow bubbles into its liquid form it’ll create carbonic acid
I heard it’s the major component of acid rain!
If peta was a person I would like to punch them
Fuck you peta
Btw this peta campaign was from 2008.
Frowns in lactose intolerant
Well shit, guess here I go with the vaccines again
Huge regions of the world are mostly lactose intolerant.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/lactose-intolerance-by-country
So there must be no autistic people there, right?
Of course there are autistic people there, they’ve got vaccines /jk
What the fuck. And I thought ‘vaccines cause autism’ was stupid and offensive.
While this claim might turn out to be false, the amount of vitriol hurled towards Peta really is something else.
Even if you’ve never heard of any of the other terrible shit they’ve done, you have a live example of outrageous ableism from them, and you still jump to their defence (from 2 people who basically said “fuck peta” on the internet E: not even, they basically said “peta aren’t trustworthy” which is demonstrable fact)?
We (because fuck peta) are not the fucking problem here…
Because Peta engaged in ableism & Pseudoscience that later inspired the anti vaccine movement.
A) Exploiting and fuelling fear of a vulnerable group is evil.
B) They don’t get the benefit of “may turn out to be false”. They get to start at “fuck these bullshit lies”.
I’m vegan for a decade now and for a while I felt like I have to support peta because they fight for the right cause. But seeing all the shit they publish, I’m not that sure anymore
I guess PETA are useful for making regular vegans seem extremely tolerant and reasonable.
Do you have examples? I’ve been under the impression that they’re the good guys in most cases
You can just look at this post and see how they try to scare people into not drinking cows milk through fear of autism, which is some ablest bullshit. This is literally no better than anti-vax rhetoric.
This inspired the anti Vax movement.
I mean, not trying to defend this as this is pretty bad, but I guess it gets people talking and thinking about their consumption of animal products?
No, it doesn’t. It makes people discount anything you say because all you’re trying to do is draw attention to yourself. You end up being ignored and nobody cares about your message since the things you say are terrible.
Fair enough
Autism is not a bad thing, but they are acting as if it is.
How would you feel if the campaign said: “Drinking milk makes your child gay?”
Would it still be okay because it gets people thinking about their consumption of animal products?
I see what you mean
I remember a cat adaptation campaign with the slogan “Grab them by the pussy” right after Trump said it (or when it came out) which is tasteless at best
It is pretty tasteless, I’ll give you that. But it’s meant to be provocative, I think, and shocking, so the slogan did accomplish its goal.
Yes, they accomplish their goals, but (to come back to my first comment) is it really the right cause or does it alienate people?
Do they accomplish their goals? How many people can you point to who have said that they became a vegan because of PETA?
That’s my point. Their goal is provocation, the right cause would be to convince people which they don’t do
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/17/peta-sorry-for-taking-girls-dog-putting-it-down
They kidnapped and killed someone’s dog.
Not just one dog. They do it systematically
The people who want us to give up all meat and even not have pets operate the biggest kill-shelter in the United States. They’re constantly preachy, condescending, they lie. Fuck em.
Euthanising animals that have nothing to live for any longer, who are dead-sick and are in agony. Compared to the billions of animals raised for animal ag, slaughtered on the daily, just to be sold for pennies in stores. I don’t think they’re the villain here, my guy.
Miss me with the “my guy” shit. It’s smarmy.
The post we’re commenting on they’re saying milk causes autism, like out of their ass. Just like they did with vaccines. You say they aren’t the villain, but making shit up about people with medical conditions doesn’t make you a hero.
I agree with you. I don’t think this is a particularly useful spending of their time and resources since there’s a plethora of reasons not to consume dairy. However, you did bring up their kill shelters which I responded to.
Again, I am not defending them using their don’t-consume-dairy-to-prevent-autism shtick. I don’t agree with their outright villainisation in regards to everything else they do, which is definitely heaps more than the average non-vegan does in terms of pro-animal advocacy.
I just wanted to say that regardless of our opinions I was sort of rude in my phrasing. Sorry for that.
No worries. I appreciate you saying that.
I don’t agree with their outright villainisation in regards to everything else they do, which is definitely heaps more than the average non-vegan does in terms of pro-animal advocacy.
What specifically have they achieved? What is all of this lying and showboating they constantly do getting them? Has there been a major societal shift toward veganism caused by PETA that I missed?
What I find shocking is you assumed the “before” image wasn’t shopped!
I went looking for evidence it was real and just found a bunch of people claiming it was from 2008, no snopes article (which shocked me) and a bunch of people on reddit saying it was teal but very outdated and to argue about something recent.
But both of y’all saw a post that was edited and treated the “before” as real. Remarkable
Or you could get your head out your ass pretending like it isn’t exactly the kind of bullshit peta have been pulling for years, put your bias and urge to jump to their defence for who the hell knows why to one side, and actually click some of the results?
Like the Time article that includes the following quote from peta:
But even in light of the criticism and the science that shows no such effects of milk, the group stands by its insupportable claim, saying, in a statement, “PETA’s website provides parents with the potentially valuable information that researchers have backed up many families’ findings that a dairy-free diet can help kids with autism.”
Hey. Put that shit away. I’m not experiencing a “bias” because I tried to confirm something I saw in an image macro before I got into a diatribe.
Are you okay? I’ve never seen you be this pissy on the fediverse before.
E: And because apparently it bears saying, even though I never indicated otherwise, fuck Peta. Seriously don’t know how “please make sure the thing you’re arguing about is worth arguing about” made me a Peta apologist. I’ve literally never met anyone, even online, who liked that organization.
You’re right, I didn’t verify it. I also didn’t email them about it or show my ass about it in public, just the discussion here where it was presented. Sounds like your research was inconclusive but thanks for looking into it.
Remarkable
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/17/peta-sorry-for-taking-girls-dog-putting-it-down
They kidnapped a healthy dog from it’s home and euthanized it.
Unlike milkautism, when I looked into them killing animals years ago, it sounded essentially defensible. What do you remember about it?
I might’ve looked it up because they took some family pet off a porch or something. Yikes.
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OK, Newsweek confirms they kill plenty of animals, and includes PETA’s reasoning. They’re not operating a hamburger factory or anything two faced that I can tell.
ARE YOU BLIND
Because this would absolutely be in character for them, that’s why.
