• LesserAbe@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    From a religious nut job perspective life begins at conception, not ejaculation, so you’re safe.

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      The Morning After Pill is is technically not contraception as it happens after conception but prevents the embryo from attaching to the uterus wall (or something like that)

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        I thought its purpose was to tell the body to not ovulate as it simulates hormonal pregnancy, which is why it can also have rough side effects after. The copper IUD prevents an ovum from implanting in the uterine wall. The MAP does not prevent one getting pregnant if the egg has already dropped.

        Disclaimer, I’m a guy and writing this on my morning commute, so if I’m wrong, please chime in and correct me.

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          That’s the normal contraceptive pill that you’d take regularly, the “morning after pill” is for when you’ve realised that you forgot to use any contraception and need to stop that embryo before it grows any more!

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            Even for the morning after pill, the main mechanism is to prevent/delay ovulation that cycle. It theoretically can reduce the likelihood of implantation, but it’s less effective at that mode of prevention. And if the embryo already implanted, it will do nothing.

            From the FDA:

            Plan B One-Step works before release of an egg from the ovary. As a result, Plan B One-Step usually stops or delays the release of an egg from the ovary. It is one tablet that contains a higher dose of levonorgestrel than birth control pills and works in a similar way to prevent pregnancy.

            Evidence does not support that the drug affects implantation or maintenance of a pregnancy after implantation, therefore it does not terminate a pregnancy.

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        Not sure if this is where you’re going with this, but some pro life advocates view contraception that prevents the implantation of a fertilized egg as an abortion (and hence murder)

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        Where in the Bible are you referring to?

        I’m an atheist now but was a handful of credit hours away from finishing my bachelor’s degree in “Bible”. There’s a verse in Genesis that talks about God breathing life into Adam, but that’s not talking about all humans.

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      From the scientific perspective, humans oscillate between haploid forms and diploid forms, all equally human.

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        Are haploid forms really considered complete? They literally have half the genetic material, don’t they? So you could say they are half as human.

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          Some haploid forms are full grown adults, such as male ants and bees. The haploid form of fungi is usually dominant over the diploid form. Haploid forms are not some crippled half version. They are a complete life stage of the organism.

          The fact that our diploid forms are what we call people, while the haploid forms are microscopic probably has more to do with how we have sex than anything.

          You might argue that the diploid form is more robust genetically, but the sperm cell has great need for robustness.