• GroundedGator@lemmy.world
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        Birthday on LinkedIn is a bit outlandish as age discrimination laws are fairly standard. I think it is more likely that they called it their birthday on some immature post, which may mean that the applicant is a poor cultural fit.

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      “However, the skillset has been retained in our documentation for future potential expansion into potential expansion.”

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        “Your skills and qualities tell us you may be over qualified for the position. We would like to offer you a role in management instead.”

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          • Managed a diverse team, ensuring effective communication and coordination across departments.
          • Orchestrated a strategic expansion initiative to establish presence in previously uncharted regions.
          • Oversaw budget management and resource allocation to meet organizational goals.
          • Led a major organizational transformation, significantly expanding membership and reach.
          • Excelled in strategic negotiations and public relations to foster expansion.
          • Cultivated a strong team culture focused on achieving shared objectives.
          • Led high-stakes operations in logistically complex and challenging environments.
          • Pioneered innovative approaches to overcome traditional operational barriers.
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    This can’t be real. There are so many red flags this is fake. 1) Everything is censored. 2) GIS (Google image search) lookup only shows reddit and linkedin. The linkedin post is just as vague “learned a colleague received this!” 3) It’s too good to be true. it plays on current fears. 4) It’s just so dumb.

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      1. Of course everything is censored, there is no reason to share personal info like that.

      2. I don’t know what Geographical Information Systems have to do with this post, are you referring to a reverse image search like google or tineye or something? What were you expecting to find? The original email with all of the aforementioned personal info? Are you surprised content could be posted to Reddit before anywhere else?

      3. Current fears are justified.

      4. Poe’s Law tells me not to assume anything is satirical because there will always be people that stupid or greedy.

      And yeah, it could be fake, 100%, but your arguments were really dumb.

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      1. Companies usually don’t send out detailed rejection letters like this. They’re usually like “after reviewing your credentials we decided to go with another candidate” or something vague like that.
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      1 is in no way a red flag, don’t put other’s personally identifying information on the Internet.

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      I fucking hate people like you.

      “Everything on Reddit/Lemmy is fake and gay. Here’s my evidence.”

      All evidence easily has an explanation, most of it laughably so.

      What do idiots who claim everything is fake get out of it? To troll the OP? Or do you just want to spread your misery?

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    What always ticks me off beyond reason in mails like these is the “we genuinely appreciate your time and effort in…”

    Fuck. You. With. An. Umbrella.

    You don’t appreciate shit, you’re full of shit, yet you’re too shit to even just say what you really want to say: fuck you, we don’t give a damn. Because being actually honest might also be bad and cost money.

    Companies like there are the worse and should all burn in hell

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        It’s not the email that bugs me, it’s the fake politeness and language like “but we care! We really do!”

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    Is this not completely illegal? Dunno about the USA, in the UK age is a protected characteristic and you would be fucked for trying this. If it’s real ofc.

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    This is most likely fake.

    If this was automated, a company automating rejection emails would never write the reason for rejection. It would be a vague excuse like “not a good fit for the role”.

    If this was not automated, then no recruiter would be this stupid.

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      Me, why shouldn’t one do that? But my last resume is 10 years old, maybe I am out of touch with all the mumbo jumbo dancing you have to do, to build the “right” resume.

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            Well you can’t make a hiring decision on that basis in most places unless you have a reason. What constitutes “a reason” being variable. Generally if you are prohibited from making a decision on a certain factor, you may not ask about it during an interview.

            Sex discrimination can be constituted by various things. For example asking about maritial status, children, plans for pregnancy, soliciting sexual favors, etc. Also in some places, if you thought someone might be trans, you could not ask them about that.

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        Don’t put your age. It can lead to unintentional (or intentional) age discrimination and it’s better for your experience to be the focus.

        Age isn’t a factor in hiring, so there’s no need to put it on there. It could only be a detriment to the applicant.

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            Some of us don’t clutter up our resumes with every job we’ve ever had. My resume lists nothing irrelevant to my current career. I was well into adulthood at that time. Who cares where I went to highschool? It demonstrates respect for the time of the person tasked with reading a stack of resumes to not waste their time.

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              People probably don’t care where you went to high school, but they probably care if you have a degree and when you got it. Most people go to university within a few years of finishing high school.

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                According to US statistics, “overall college enrollment rate of 18- to 24-year-olds (ages in which students traditionally enroll in college) was 38 percent in 2021”.

                So if by “most people” you mean, “less than half” then yes you are correct.

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                  Most people who have a higher education degree. I thought that was implied as you even mentioned it in your comment “ages in which students traditionally enroll in college”.

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        Unless you are trying to get a job with min/max age requirements, like airline pilot or us president, age provides no valuable information to potential employer other than a factor to illegally discriminate on.

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        Personally, I would say it shouldn’t matter.

        I wouldn’t want to know the birth date of a person I was interviewing, and there’s no need for my interviewer to know mine.

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      It wasn’t on their résumé it was on their LinkedIn.

      Although now the question becomes, why would you put your DOB on LinkedIn, which I have no idea.

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    On the one hand this is a bad that this happened to you, because the reasoning is completely idiotic.

    On the other hand it can be a learning lesson that it’s better to write your birthday as April 20th, and never as 4/20.

    PS: Please name that company publicly. Maybe write a short mail to a website about tech news, like https://arstechnica.com or https://www.wired.com. You could also try the blog https://boingboing.net

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      Seems like they should really keep using 4/20, seems like an effective pre-screening tool for places I don’t even want to walk by, let alone work at.

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      Publicity will help prevent such major oversight. This is the problem with using AI for hiring practices instead of real people. Applying to jobs in the 2020s with a college degree, experience in the field, required employment history, and certifications STILL feels like applying for credit cards online with bad credit due to AI prematurely denying many applicants on frivolous grounds before it even gets to the recruiters email/web portal. That being said I don’t think this person is the person who received the email themselves they are just posting it here.

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        It may not be worth listening to me on this because I only got to preliminary stages of looking for a new job before finding out that I would need to be a full time learning coach for my daughter’s online school, but I had ChatGPT rewrite my resume for me. My reasoning was that if AI is weeding out resumes, they’ll be less likely to weed out a resume written by what an AI thinks a resume should look like.

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      Why does a company even need your date of birth on an application?

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    If you’re in the US and can afford it, Talk to a lawyer.

    This is blatant discrimination of a immutable attribute which is a Civil Rights violation.

    This is written evidence to that fact.

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      This is why I assume this must be fake. Because even a trainee HR employee would look at that email, and not send it out.

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        Assuming they’re checking the emails at all.

        Remember when that guy decided to read a book while his Tesla was doing basic lane following, and merged into a semi? I 'member.

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        Is it like a disgusting brown/yellow? I was having that all day yesterday but I don’t see it on the post you’re talking about.

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    I fucking despise the fact that AI almost exclusively is responsible for throwing out 99% of all resumes before they reach a human being

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      This isn’t just AI. AI doesn’t care about jokes or memes or “professionalism.” This was either a review by an actual human that didn’t realize people are born on April 20th or an AI told to reject resumes with that date in it.

      Either way, it’s a really dumb person that set this rule.

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        My guess is it’s programmed to reject 4/20 anywhere it finds it and the programmer didn’t take into account that some values can just happen to be 4/20.

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          Although I have to ask- who would put any weed references on a resume that wasn’t tailored for, say, a weed dispensary job?

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            I interviewed a guy whose dev career involved a (pretty good) front-end for a grow operation. I believe the ownership at that company may have opted against hiring because of that. I’ll admit, I wasn’t wowed by his skills enough to go to bat for him.

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            Hmm, might be a list of no go words they complied from somewhere. You’re right, it’s very unlikely that someone actively excluded 420 but maybe they downloaded a list of “bad words”.

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          Sounds plausible. Could just be extremely lazy. “What about dates with 4/20” “Oh come on, how often will that legitimately occur”

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            I’m not getting up that early. What’s the point in having a drug habit if you don’t get to lie in I thought that was the whole point?

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      The problem isn’t AI the problem is brainless humans who configured the AI.

      AI isn’t going to become skynet and take over the world unless someone tells it to. In which case the human is the problem.

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    Local company? Send it to the local news. They’ll jump all over a reference to end of days AI.

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      Doesn’t need to be AI. Just a simple filter to call out the offending information and what field it was in. Still crappy, and something AI would do, but there are cheaper ways to automate the enshittification of job applications.

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    If that’s real and in the US that’s age discrimination and you can sue, and easily win, even if they say it’s not your age, but the date of your birthday it still would fall under discrimination based on age.

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        I honestly can’t tell if you’re serious or not.

        edit: I’m not from the US and this seems like a very silly legislation. Unless I’m getting whoooshed.

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          It’s silly but it addresses a real problem. You don’t see job ads stating no women, Blacks, Mexicans, people with disabilities, etc. (This was very much a thing in the not too distant past, just look at job ads in the USA from the 60s)

          Age was added later because employers prefer hiring younger people as they can often pay them significantly less and get more work out of them because of their inexperience.

          There are examples of employers firing all of their older workers to save money (though many of these companies turned out as terrible for the long term health of the company).

          Older people tend to vote more and the state doesn’t want to pay unemployment to people so hence the law was amended.

          This is just another example of age and deviousness triumphing over youth and enthusiasm.