• Justin@lemmy.jlh.name
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      9 months ago

      War is not something to glorify. It’s unfortunate that the situation with Israel/Palestine, Saudis/Iran, and Houthis/US escalated to this point.

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        Don’t think any civilian deaths have been reported so far, just 10 Houthi soldiers according to the Houthis themselves. We’ll see how that shakes out as more information emerges, but we also aren’t Israel - civilian casualties are something we try to avoid.

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          Were those the 10 soldiers in pirate boats attacking a merchant ship? I don’t see any reason for sympathy

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              9 months ago

              Lol what a pathetic taunt.

              Edit for the ultra daft downvote crew: the fact the US killed civilians is directly relevant to the blub i responded to, the one claiming the US was bettter than Israel because it did not kill civilians.

              For the extra determined ignoramouses ive provided this as an example :

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                  9 months ago

                  Your link to the definition of ‘avoid’?

                  I avoided nothing. I addressed the issue directly.

                  The USA kills civilians.

                  Israel does at a much faster rate. A genocidal one in fact.

                  But that does not give any creedence to the notion the USA is innocent.

                  QED JFC

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                    Now you’re moving the goalpost. Dude, just admit your wrong. The US goes to great lengths to avoid civilian casualties.

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          Oh, sorry. I thought this was related to the genocide in Gaza. Completely unrelated and just trade related in the seas adjacent. Obviously we should protect profits at all costs.

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            I mean, considering the Houthis aren’t targeting Israeli ships specifically, it’s not really particularly related to the ongoing genocide in Gaza, despite the Houthi claims? It’s terrorists showboating to burnish their own credentials.

            Obviously we should protect profits at all costs.

            … and what about the human lives threatened by literal terrorists attacking unarmed civilian ships with drones and rockets? Fuck 'em, huh? The people who will suffer from the economic disruption, fuck them too, right? Fucking poors, who cares about them? It’s not like there’s an ongoing global crisis with rising food prices from prior disruptions to supply lines.

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              Let’s not blow it out of proportion. I disagree with attacking trade routes, but there have been no casualties.

              However 12000+ Palestinians have died.

              As a civilian, I don’t want to enter a warzone or a disputed route. These people are choosing to and should be protected. However, let’s not pretend it’s not a one sided conflict, based on genocide, which Israeli government ministers have advocated for.

              I don’t own any kind f those ships, but if I did, I’d find a different route. It started with just protests against ships stopping at Israel. I wish it stayed there. How many ships can stop at Gaza with humanitarian supplies?

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                Let’s not blow it out of proportion. I disagree with attacking trade routes, but there have been no casualties.

                Because Western military ships have been busy intercepting drones and rockets. This is just the first time we’ve hit back.

                However 12000+ Palestinians have died.

                Okay, how is that the fault of civilian ships going through international waters?

                As a civilian, I don’t want to enter a warzone or a disputed route. These people are choosing to and should be protected. However, let’s not pretend it’s not a one sided conflict, based on genocide, which Israeli government ministers have advocated for.

                Until the Houthis starting firing, it wasn’t a warzone or a disputed route. The route isn’t in Israeli territorial waters. It’s nowhere near Gaza or Israel.

                I don’t own any kind f those ships, but if I did, I’d find a different route.

                The only other route is all the way around Africa.

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                As a civilian, I don’t want to enter a warzone or a disputed route. These people are choosing to and should be protected. However, let’s not pretend it’s not a one sided conflict, based on genocide, which Israeli government ministers have advocated for.

                You do understand that the ship attacks we’re talking about in this thread are happening 1000 miles away from Israel at the clear other end of the Red Sea, right? It’s nowhere near the Gaza warzone (which borders a different sea entirely – the Mediterranean), nor is it even “disputed” by anybody legitimate.

                Literally nothing about this, except the Houthi terrorists’ choice of timing, has anything to do with Israel.

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                It’s a tough situation, but attacking civilians is not a valid way of protesting Israels’ attacks on civilians.