Pc gamers when their 350$ handheld laptop has a bigger library, more backwards compatibility, and cross platform access without any monthly subscriptions.
Don’t forget the mods, console fanboys only get their approved mods while PC gets the wild west experience
Don’t forget console commands to work around a bug in a quest. Or summon items. Or respawn accidentally killed NPCs.
If I can’t play stalker gamma on it it’s basically worthless
I can pirate very easily too - probably saved me about $3k in game costs alone while still having a way larger legit library than 99% of Consol owners
I’ve had three gaming PCs and spent maybe $10K in computer parts in the last fifteen years. I know I’ve definitely saved more than that versus having a console.
If you got every major console of one manufacturer during those 15 years you’d have like 3 consoles. That’s less than 2k
Now factor in the game costs. The thread is about piracy.
They only talked about “computer parts”. In any case, I highly doubt most ppl would spend 8k on console games.
8k over 15 years comes out to about 9 games per year. Not that doubtful at all. In any case, the point is piracy gets you more games for less money.
denuvo has changed this somewhat
The only thing denuvo has done was delay games a bit for me.
Well, normally I wouldn’t have to wait to pirate something. So I think the current situation is pretty bad
why is denuvo hard to remove tho?
yeah, there are a lot of traps embeeded in obfuscated code (a total mess and really hard to reverse engineer)
… but in the end it still has to interface with some service to check for license ownership or obtain some sort of token for description, why not hook that or find a way to reuse tokens?
PC Gamers: buys $550 Steam Deck
Console Gamers: . . . shit
$460 (64gb version + 1tb SD card)
Let’s be honest, the Steam Deck is a console.
It’s a handheld computer. It’s more of a glorified gaming tablet than a console. It’s no more of a console than a gaming laptop with the same APU.
Yes, but also no.
My PC is better than my console, that’s for sure. I have the Xbox 360.
I have a ps2
Your PlayStation has a number?
So does my N
You could almost argue that the pc is not better.
Had such happy times in the ps2 days
Try zone of the enders 2 on PC. Plays a million times better than on PS2 with the massive frame rate drops.
How is PS2 emulation nowadays?
It’s fine. I played all the way through Metal Gear Solid 3 on my old PC that just had a quad-core CPU about 10 years ago. It performed better than the PS2 did on the same game.
Not sure, I still use my ps2 =)
Mine actually isn’t. It’s better than a PS4 but not as good as a PS5 (which I have).
I’m just happy I can watch my porn on 4k on the second screen with music, while still playing on ultra in my games. Makes me feel like I am at a bar.
You must go to some wild bars!
Sometimes the sketchy ones are the best ones.
Lol sometimes. Dive bars for life.
No, sounds like regular titty bars 🥥 🥥
A regular titty bar in the wild!
The only bar OP goes to is the space bar.
What if my $300 PC is better than your $400 console?
What if it had more utilities than just gaming and streaming?
What if my $1500 PC built 5 years ago has been more capable than multiple generations of consoles that have been released since? My brother has bought like 3 XBoxes in the same amount of time and my PC still outpaces it by a pretty wide margin.
5 years ago
multiple generations of consoles
There has only been one generation of consoles released since.
The Switch successor might count as another generation if that comes out this year, though, and it would also be a sad state of affairs if your PC wasn’t more powerful than mobile hardware so that’s basically a given, I’ll give you that.
Didn’t they release several different versions of the Xbox in that time? Like technically the same “generation” or whatever but upgrading a few minor things like storage and such?
my mobile PC cost $600 and is more powerful than the next gen switch.
Lowest price I can find for a PS5 is $500
That’s less than I’ve put into my PC since the PS4
Edit: Just realized that the CPU I recently upgraded from predates the PS4.
Plus, no monthly fees for online play on PC.
That depends on the game you’re playing, not the platform, right?
Right?
Nah, you need to pay a monthly sub to play online with every console
Don’t need a sub to play F2P games online on PS, at least.
Meanwhile, on Xbox, you need Game Pass to play Final Fantasy 14, on top of the subscription to the game itself.
No not every game, there are a lot of online F2P games or games that have their own sub to play on PS5 that don’t require PS+.
Nope. You need Playstation Plus or Xbox Game Pass Core for online play on their respective platforms. And they charge subscription fees for that.
You mean like WoW?
Who still plays WoW though?
That’s why I only get sp games that are exclusive to Playstation with mine. I mean technically Bloodborne and Demon’s Souls have multiplayer but I’m totally fine not seeing bloodstains and messages that say “try jumping” everywhere or having some rando invade me.
At the same time, most of those exclusives are PS4 games so unless you really want the 5 or 6 games that are only on PS5, you could save money and get a PS4.
Same for me, but it’s just GT7. Really wish Sony would port it to pc.
PC is cheaper in the long run.
You don’t need new controllers or any proprietary accessories when switching console and you can buy games on steam sales (which can be insanely cheaper).
You can also update your pc if you want it to last a bit longer.
I think consoles made more sense back then. If you like your console that’s fine, but I’m pretty sure pc is much cheaper and last longer when you consider all those factors.
I know it’s a meme, but you don’t need $3K for decent gaming PC unless you want overkill performance. If you get components on sale, you can build something pretty good for $600 to $700 (excluding monitor, mouse and keyboard). You just be patient and fool around on pcpartpicker.
The real cost is in trying to match parts that look good together (especially white), spending money on RGB/screens, going liquid instead of air so you can see more of your motherboard, and spending way too much on a really nice looking case.
also steam sales are often way better than sales on console which is only part of the year and only games atleast a year or two old but still if you’re patient you can get really good deals for games on pc
You get to run older games that use to run like shit on previous console generations without waiting for a “remaster” and paying $70 for it. Current generation games will run better on future versions of your PC sometimes to a really silly degree.
I heard half life 2 was really hard to run back in the day and now you can run it at 200 fps on a modern toaster.
Aint heard of no ps5 running linux
ps3 though…
Not Linux, but I believe it runs on FreeBSD.
PS3 used to have the option to boot into Linux, though. Used to.
Whats the point of freebsd if youre not free to do anything you want with it
See Also: Apple Vision users after playing Fruit Ninja for the first time.
It used to be that you could legit build a PC for fairly cheap, but those days are long gone. Yet another hobby that got gentrified.
Definitely not the case. You can easily get all-in-one mini PCs for $400-500 that can play most any new game at 1080p without much issue. Thanks to all the new stuff like DLSS/FSR, you can get away with a lot more for a lot less.
Maybe they came back down, but when I looked at parts a year or so ago, the prices were extremely high. Unless you’re one of the lucky few who lives anywhere near a Micro Center. There’s not even one in my state, so I rely on sites like NewEgg, Amazon, and Best Buy.
I built my first PC for ~$1k in 2017, and it was moderately good. Unless something has changed and I’ve not noticed, I don’t think I could even build that again for that price with the exact same parts.
Or maybe I’m clueless, and you can show me an alternative site that I’m unaware of.
Depends on your target. The integrated GPUs from AMD these days are very good, and can run a lot of games at 720p pretty well. Discrete GPUs have also come down in price over the last year.
What happened was the pandemic created a supply chain bottleneck combined with scalpers gathering up what supply there was. The issues were worked out by the end of that generation, but then Nvidia released the next generation with prices where they assumed people would just pay that now. That’s bitten them in the ass, and there’s been a lot of market correction as GPUs sit on the shelf (though probably not enough).
As usual, AMD comes out looking like the good guy by being slightly less shitty than its competition. They also had elevated prices this generation, but kept it just a bit lower. Looking good by being a smidge less bad than Intel and Nvidia is a plan that’s worked for them 100% of the time every time in the past, so why change it?
I mean, in the graphics department, despite starting out rough, Intel is looking kind of sweet if you tolerate some drivers shennanigans every now and then
Yeah, prices went super high during the pandemic, and prices for GPUs in particular stayed high for a while due to crypto miners. They’re largely back down to earth now, though.
That’s good news! They were still high last I checked, but it’s been a while since I’ve even thought about upgrading anything.
depend if your gpu seller is amd or nvidia
Bought a fine used pc for relatively cheap and upgraded it over time. The CPU from 2016/17 is still mighty fine.
Also NVMe SSDs are dirt cheap nowadays, although they are more expensive than last year they now cost about as much as I paid for a crappy HDD back in 2017.I have no idea why you think this… In 2020 you may have had a point, but GPU prices have returned to normal after the cryptodouches destabilized the market.
I bought a gpu last week that’s was just $120 (Arc A360), and it’s pretty dang solid. A high end (but still affordable) GPU would be about $250 (GTX 3060).
If we’re talking about matching the latest consoles, then you’re looking at $340 (Radeon 6700) GPU with a $120 CPU (Ryzen 5600). I don’t recommend that, but that’s where the comparison starts. Throw another $60 into that and you start getting specs way above the latest generations.
Can you show me which site is giving you these prices? I’d love to be wrong!
PC is way cheaper long term because you can pirate games
you can pirate on consoles too, although its much trickier
And requires a PC to do so…
Nintendo 3ds balling
Pirating some stuff is the only option for the 3ds unfortunately since it got Nintendo’d
I have a Xbox 360 that has currently more than 800 games installed locally.
Ah, this again. Maybe we can start accepting other people’s use cases? (This goes both ways btw)
Consoles are kinda dying anyways tho. Less and less sales even tho there are more and more gamers.
They are more and more just mini pc’s with ads and paid online service.
Well the last 2 generations of ps/Xbox consoles with mainly PC parts brought that upon themselves. They need to be consoles damn it, not weak PCs.
The switch still stands out with unique features (and pricing).
This but unironically
So we‘re already coming to Reddit niveau?
Yeah, my PC is my identity!
