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    7 months ago

    I like to think that if reincarnation is real, the reason it can’t be verified is because the universe is so vast, the likelihood of reincarnating as something on Earth is super miniscule. Even if you could only come back as something intelligent like a human, if there are other intelligent life forms in the universe, the odds of coming back as a human on Earth would be super small.

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      Which is why I always interpret the mere concept of reincarnation as a product of our own selfish assumption that we as a species matter in the grander picture.

      As if we’re so important…

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        And here I was thinking reincarnation was a among same species like if you’re born a titmouse you can only be reincarnated as another titmouse then again how would that work as evolution comes around like how much can a cardinal mutate before it’s no longer a cardinal

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      I’ll offer this (even though I fully believe life is prevalent in the universe): Who says you have to be reincarnated in chronological order? You could be reincarnated a dinosaur. A microbe in the primordial soup. A lizard 100 years from now. An armored fish.

      So the odds of landing on “human” are pretty small.

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        If microbes were in play for reincarnation, their sheer numbers would make it almost inevitable that you’d reincarnate as one

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        If you’re going back in time it’s possible you can end up in different time lines like maybe you could rencarnate into a timeline where Stalin never came into power because you caused him to become the dictator he’s known as today or maybe you could rencarnate as Adolfs mother and have to raise your child knowing the monster he will become shit that actually sounds like a good novel I want to read

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      If it it were real, your new memories would simply over write the old ones as your newborn senses develop.

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      I once showerly thought that reincarnation could not even be tied to entities that we would consider sapient. A bit like Leibniz’idea of a monad.

      For instance over could be trapped for millennia as a copper atom, solidified in an asteroid. So when you get to be in an animal form it is something fantastically rare and wonderful. And when you get a human body is the most exhilarating thing ever!

      If more people were too believe that, life wouldn’t be treated with the disdain we often put on it.

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    Not sure I care much about a test that passes Mao and Mother Theresa and fails Hitler and Kurt Cobain.

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    One of the book series I really liked is “Odd Thomas”, and a recurring theme is this life is boot camp for the challenges you’ll face in the next. This showerthought is right in line with that: clearly some people need to repeat boot camp

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    Wasn’t that the point of reincarnation in the first place? Like you keep dying until you hit Nirvana. And you fuck up badly you get bumped back to snail.

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    I’m not sure I like the analogy here. Why would a teacher let a student retake a test they walked out on without finishing? It’s one thing to fail, and try again, but you have to complete the test first.

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      They’d be retaking the entire class by being reincarnated.

      I feel like in this analogy, a near-death experience would be more like being given opportunity for a test retake.

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      They didn’t walk out. It’s just how they chose to complete the test. Nobody fails.

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    Okay but what if our souls only have a finite lifespan. You pull the reset trigger and gotta start all over, but now you only have 20 years left.

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    OP, why is suicide the only way to fail? Rape, murder, torture, those all receive passing scores?

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    This is why my Buddhist ass isn’t a very good Buddhist lol. I appreciate the parts that help get through life, but the whole thing falls apart at the random cruelty of the universe and the non-random cruelty of humanity.

    Ascribing any purpose to all of the suffering/stress of living is, frankly, bullshit in any religion. I don’t blame people for clinging to karma as an idea to explain such things, any more than I blame the whole “God’s plan” principle when things are theistic more directly. People sometimes need a pretty lie to get through the next horrible thing.

    But I don’t, and can’t buy into it. To believe that any structure or entity would do the things that happen just as natural phenomena would drive me insane trying to find a way to destroy it. That’s not covering the fact that humans do even worse things, regularly, and that’s an even bigger sign of any intelligence of the universe being a cruel and hopeless monster.

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      Frankly I came to dislike the very idea of karma as i realised it’s basically just an excuse to keep people in their place, like “you deserve this because you were shitty in your previous life”. No i wasn’t.

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      Can you explain deeper about the Buddhism thing? Like I didn’t think it ascribed anything to anything. I thought enlightenment was realizing that things generally suck, but you can only enjoy the things that don’t suck, because the rest of it sucks. So live in the moment now, and enjoy what doesn’t suck while you can.