Hi all,
Quiblr now has personalized post feeds for Lemmy!
I haven’t seen a “recommended feed” feature anywhere else in the fediverse but I thought I would take a crack at building it!
My goal was to make a privacy-focused recommendation engine that tailors your experience based on the content you interact with. None of the data leaves your device. You don’t even need to log in for it to work
- You can turn it off or tune your feed in the settings
- Each post now also includes a show me more/less button
I would LOVE feedback from folks if you get a chance to try it out!
This was really fun to build so let me know if there are any questions!
PS: Let me know if someone else has built this feature for the fediverse - then I will change the title to not claim “the first” lol
Without it being open source and not providing reproducible builds, the privacy claims are borderline weightless.
Agree, but anyone competent could just sniff the traffic. (Or hopefully, lack thereof)
For sure. What the aforementioned bits of information provide is the ability to be confident in the privacy of software if one were to treat it as a black box, ie an average consumer.
This. For all we know, the app could be doing all kinds of nefarious things and we wouldn’t be able to tell.
Hm, I feel that it’s inaccurate to say “we wouldn’t be able to tell”. It’s not exactly a black box system — the app would have to run on an operating system, and if you are able to know what the operating system is doing, and what instructions are being executed by the CPU, then you can know exactly what the app is doing.
What the aforementioned bits of information provide is the ability to treat software as a black box and be sure of its safety without having to fundamentally audit it.
even if it’s open source, how would you verify that the instance is running that version of the software?
Fair point. I believe I was under the impression that this was an app rather than a served webpage. I suppose one can easily verify this by looking at how the “For You” algorithm works within the browser — all the code for functionality would be sent to the browser; though, it could potentially be obfuscated, which might be a pain.
I dunno if this is within your wheelhouse but what I’d really like to see is a manual weighting by community.
So, for example, if you’re mildly interested in Linux, you can give those communities a 3/10 weight and that way you’d only see the most popular content rather than having it dominate your entire feed.
And then a gaming community 10/10 weight so you’d see every single post.
Maybe you can combine the 2 and just make the automatic “for you” weighting visible and manually adjustable.
Wow. This is pretty impressive since you usually only see these kinds of things from big tech companies and their stuff is definitely NOT privacy friendly.
Can you provide more detail on how it works and how it is different than what big tech is doing?
Thanks a bunch! It took me a while to craft the solution to make sure it was both effective + private. I was originally inspired by Canopy. They built a news aggregator with private & personalized posts a few years back and the idea sat in my head.
To answer your question(s), there are quite a few signals that big tech uses to recommend content. Not all of them are privacy invasive (or at least they don’t HAVE to be). My approach was to do thorough research on the different signals used by big tech to make their recommendation engines, and just build ones that 1.) were possible given fediverse API limitations and 2.) private. I had to craft some novel approaches to make it work but I’m pretty happy with the outcome!
One of the biggest differences between the “big tech” approach and Quiblr’s is that most big tech does not keep data simply on your device. They store it in datacenters to build large social-webs to essentially cluster users (and push more relevant ads).
But I was able utilize many of the other signals used by big tech (e.g. communities you engage with, metadata of content you read, dwell time, post/comment/vote activity) and I designed it to work offline with no servers.
Edit: grammar
How does it make the decision to recommend one post over another using the data it collects? Also does it treat all that data differently when ranking posts?
btw it feels really well polished so nice job.
Yep I will be happy to see that too
I would LOVE feedback from folks if you get a chance to try it out!
I have feedback completely unrelated to the recommendation engine: please consider using CSS prefers-color-scheme instead of defaulting to light mode.
Notes! I’ll aim to add it to the next release. Thanks
That does actually look interesting and might revolutionize parts of the Fediverse, ngl. Is it open-source?
Not the op but not now by the sound of it.
Is this foss if so where ia source code. Second does this need to be its own ui or could it be modified to work as a proxy between a 3rd party client and a lemmy instance? Otherwise how hard would it be to implement into eternity?
This is great! Is it open source? The only thing I found missing was an about page.
Not open source (at least yet). Quiblr has been a side project for me and I’ve never managed an open source project before lol I’m talking with a buddy on how that could work though because he manages a few open source projects
Also, I added an about page in Settings >> For You >> Learn More
There’s not that much that you have to do. Just take the code, put a FOSS license (e.g. AGPLv3 or BSD 3-clause) on it and publish it.
Yeah, when someone says private I assume I can self host.
It would be best not to direct users to sign up at lemmy.world by default. There’s nothing wrong with lemmy.world, it’s just that I feel it’d be better if users spread out more rather than only amassing in the larger instances.
I used lemmy.world as the default for non-technical users or for folks who can’t decide. Users can still select different instances. Maybe it could make sense to default sign ups to a list of popular instances
Is it opwn source? Would love to see it on mastodon and other apps
opwn source
I’m stealing this term.
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Thanks! I work on Quiblr in my free time as a side project. I’ve never managed an open source project on my own, but I’m working with a buddy who has experience managing open source projects. I’ll let you know!
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I like this, it’s impressive. Will there be an app we could move to or is it just web based for now?
Web based for now. IOS and Android apps are in the works!
What a super cool idea, and I love the implementation! I do however keep accidentally downvoting, when I want to upvote, and vice versa, since all other sites that I’ve ever used, display the upvote first, and the downvote second. Any chance of a toggle for that in settings?
A must-have feature for me is the ability to collapse comments on posts. Right now it seems like we can only collapse replies to comments, or put differently, we can only collapse child-comments. Any chance you could make it possible to collapse parent comments too?
Just a quick follow up here - I added a simple toggle setting to Quiblr that lets you flip the arrow order.
Apologies for the slow roll out, I had a big laundry list of updates in this latest release!
Wow, I appreciate you following up! I can just imagine how much you had to get through. Cheers!
It’s my pleasure! Enjoy!
Thank you so much! And I just made a note on the voting arrow order. I like the idea of making that an option in settings
And I can look into collapsing parent comments too. As you pointed out, I made it so just child comments collapse. The idea to collapse the parent comment never occurred to me lol
I’ll see if I can work both of these features into the next release.
You’re an absolute champ! Wishing you all the best with this project going forward, and I look forward to using it more :)
Forget about personalisation. That UX work is just 👌👌💯✨
But I’d definitely would like to know how it works.
Your comment made me smile! I’ve worked hard to make Quiblr a platform for the fediverse to be clean, modern, and accessible. Basically - remove all the friction that generally comes with fediverse apps
It does not. I haven’t used matrix yet. What are matrix rooms used for?
Are like Discord federated.
Matrix can be used also in place of Telegram/Whatsapp.
Little feedback on the UI from taking a peek at this.
When I went into settings and adjusted post display style from card to anything else, it wasn’t clear to me that this wouldn’t apply to the new For You feed, which left me confused and less inclined to use it. I still gave it a try to make sure I wasn’t missing anything and to see how much the feed seemed to change with some light interaction, but I think you’d need to use it more than I did to see an effect.
Problem being: display settings not applying to the For You feed means I’m not going to use it much with the default card view.
Second part is that there was some comment display lag as I looked through posts, so if I looked at a post about cats with cat-related comments, those comments would linger and appear for a moment under a different post about possums. It’s just long enough to be noticeable, so thought it worth mentioning.
Valid. I finished the functionality of the For You feed and wanted to share before wrapping up all the formatting styles for the posts. Should be fixed here in a few hours.
Also, I’ll see if there is a better way to dynamically load comments. Thanks for the feedback!
Edit: Other post formats are now available on the For You feed
