Any predictions on how long it’ll take for conservatives to start outlawing sterilizations for women?
My friend with severe PCOS and who would never be able to be pregnant had the hardest time already trying to get a hysterectomy at 28. Even asked about her future husband being ok with this decision.
So we aren’t that far off already.
It’s exceptionally difficult already for a woman to get sterilized. The decider may be whether sterilization has the same stigma/religious fervor around it that abortion has in that people will willingly waste their weekends off protesting against it.
I’m optimistic, but America likes to disappoint me.
That’s why I hauled ass to the doctor and got a bisalp scheduled asap. I ended up getting them to agree to a hysterectomy this year, which is what I really wanted, but I wasn’t willing to take a chance on that not happening. I’m no longer in the young category, but I was only 38 and potentially still fertile (and way more likely to have complications from being “geriatric”).
Honestly it’s so difficult to get done as it is that they don’t even need to outlaw. It’s virtually unobtainable for most women unless they already have “enough” kids, whatever that means to a specific doctor, or they travel to find a willing doctor.
It took me 8 years to get it done because I’ve never reproduced (childfree by choice). And I’m one of the easier stories. I got it done at 27, in 2015, and while some doctors are more willing now, most aren’t. Especially in conservative areas.
All they have to do is keep making doctors scared to offer proper reproductive care, make it risky and they stop going into that field. You don’t need to make it illegal, just impossible. Rich white people will still be able to choose, so they don’t care.
I had to deal with a whole bunch of people asking me hypothetical questions. What if you regret it? (what if I regret having them?), what about your future partner? (If they are right for me they also don’t want kids, and I don’t plan to get married anyway). What if you change your mind? (I will adopt if that happens. I don’t believe sharing my junk genetics is important, and the chances of issues are high anyway since I’m also broken, and there are plenty of not-infant kids who need homes if I get maternal, but kids under 5 aren’t my jam and probably never will be, and I’m probably too negligent to raise them right anyway). Ultimately they couldn’t argue with my logic but it took years of finding the right doctors getting the right consultations, etc.
TIHI. Fuck this is coming isn’t it.
They are already trying to ban contraceptives. Cancer is what they are.
Why would we? We’re against murdering babies, not for controlling women.
Is that why Republican members of Congress recently stated that IVF should be banned?
We all know you’re full of shit, but just in case you’re a useful idiot to conservatism instead of cynical grifter…
If you want fewer abortions, the answer has been obvious for decades — sex ed and birth control made available to everyone that wants it, which results in fewer unwanted pregnancies, which results in fewer abortions.
Your moron political group and its insistence on overturning Roe resulted in an increase in abortions. 2023 had the highest number and rate in literally decades. So if you’re dumb enough to think that’s “murdering babies,” then congrats. The people you vote for increased the body count.
Then why are you also against birth control?
Im not, unless you think abortion is birth control
Hard truth for folks to understand is people actually fuck because it’s fun and a healthy part of a relationship.
This is what happens when you have no alternatives left to manage accidents and don’t want to live like a nun or monk.
Oh they understand people fuck, and the people who want to ban abortion and contraception want people to have kids they didn’t want for various reasons.
The number of young men getting vasectomies also shot up, but men still get sterilized much less often than women.
I got mine in September. I’d kicked the can down the road for years but finally pulled the trigger largely because of Roe being overturned.
Hell yeah. I got mine done 5 years ago
The only reason I haven’t is because I’m ace, so nothing’s happening until I intentionally attempt for kids
I’ll admit that I’d never considered your situation before and feel that I have learned quite a lot very suddenly. Thank you.
I only recently started to realize that myself actually. Even growing up with LGBT+ folks exploding in visibility, it was always in the direction of allosexual folks. I grew up being conditioned to believe whatever I felt about sex should be ignored and that I should seek it out.
What I’ve realized is that I’m not sex-adverse like I assumed ace folks would be, I just don’t care or think about it. I also don’t get the hype around sex. That’s also a valid asexual outlook. Some day I do want to be a dad though, so I need the very same family planning resources that are currently being chipped away.
What I heard: you’re up to it if you’re in the mood but you’ll never go looking for it.
More like, I will have sex with romantic partners if they want it but I won’t ever go asking them for sex. I’m completely disinterested in sex with strangers. I tried to dance around it because some folks find the discussion gross, but an additional aspect to being ace for me is that it doesn’t feel much different from masturbating. I still have libido, so both of those are just ways of handling a natural part of being human
Sweet, thanks.
I was broke as hell and the vasectomy was going to cost $700.
I finally saved $700, and when I went in they said “shit dawg, you’re broke as hell. Here is this program to make it free”
So even if you can’t afford it, try reaching out to your local planned parenthood. They know how to navigate the benefit system better then you.
The lesbian woman got sterelized in case she gets raped so it doesn’t result in pregnancy. That’s … wow.
If you read to the end, the article mentions that the first time Ferst tried to get sterilized (and her old doctor was being difficult) she still had a male partner. I think she’s bisexual.
Blows my mind that vasectomies are the less common procedure. Got mine done cheaply many years ago. Super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Partner got tubes done recently (so that insurance couldn’t deny her for medically necessary hysterectomy later, what a dumb system we have) and she was miserably bedridden for quite a while, with the scars to prove it. Would have been expensive if she wasn’t maxed for out-of-pocket already.
Anyone have a sane explanation?
Getting your vas deferential snipped is tight!
vas deferential
Maybe you’re making a joke I don’t get, but otherwise: It’s called vas deferens
Wow wow wow, there is a whole lot of Ryan George all over this thread, good to see. He does skits on YT, look up - Pitch Meeting
Toxic masculinity, all my friends that don’t want to be convinced have the worst excuses possible but most times it’s about not wanting to feel like a lesser man.
That’s so bizare, since I swapped out to unleaded we fuck constantly and not worry about contraception. nothing makes you feel like more of a man than fucking raw dog every chance you get.
No offense but your friends sound stupid.
Lots of people are stupid.
In many ways, our society encourages such stupidity.
Super easy, barely an inconvenience.
I get that reference, but also I’d like to support the statement. I’ve sat on my couch for 2-3 days, frozen peas in my lap and just took it slow. A week later I could barely tell that anything changed.
Women are treated as objects
I’d get snipped if I thought for a moment that I’d be seen as sexually desirable ever again.
From experience you better do it while you’re single instead of waiting until you’re with someone and having to deal with the stress it will cause them when it becomes official…
Why wouldn’t you be?
It could only help.
Part of the reason why I am getting my daughters citizenship abroad. One day, I hope that day never ever comes, they might need it.
How do you plan on doing that?
I’d get a second vasectomy if I thought it would help. The first one was super easy.
Barely an inconvenience!
Super easy!
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