• bostonbananarama@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    They both need to step aside, it’s better to have an unknown than a known candidate that people don’t like.

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        Can you show an election where that strategy has worked this late in the game?

        To my knowledge the President and vice President haven’t stepped down from a political campaign. However, I can point to a situation in which a vice president took over for an unpopular president and lost. That would be Hubert Humphrey in 1968.

        Additionally, just based on logic alone, it is ridiculous to insinuate that it wouldn’t be better to have an unknown candidate than a disliked candidate.

        How could it be better to have a candidate that voters do not like, over a candidate that they haven’t come to an opinion on yet?

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        Yea, pretty much every election up here in Canada.

        I’m amazed that Americans think four months “is like literally no time”.

        It’d take an ad spend but the DNC could name recognition pretty much anyone at this point.

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          You don’t elect a chief executive in Canada the way we do in the U.S.

          You can’t compare a parliamentary election to our constitutional presidential republic’s elections.

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          The elections are short, but we’ve known the candidates a long time. De Dluca was elected leader shortly before the election and no one knew who he was and he totally tanked.

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        Its not, last time we did this Reagan won by a fucking landslide. I am very nervous but voting D.

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          In 1980, Reagan beat an unpopular incumbent, Carter, by a huge margin. In 1984, Reagan was the incumbent and crushed Walter Mondale. I’m not sure which one is the, “last time we did this” though.

          If anything, Reagan shows us that unpopular incumbents do not have a high likelihood of reelection.

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        can you show an election where somebody in the polling position of biden has come back to win it?

        non-us election cycles are shorter than the time that’s left i don’t think it’s an impossible hurdle

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          I don’t have to show evidence for a claim I did not make.

          You, however, made this claim: it’s better to have an unknown than a known candidate that people don’t like.

          Can you back it up with evidence or not?

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            i think it’s weird that you think you’re allowed to infer claims from my position but that i’m not allowed to infer claims from yours

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              I didn’t infer anything. You made a direct claim that you aren’t backing up. I quoted it. I have made no claims.

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                you didn’t quote anything?

                please could you quote the exact words you believe i used to express “it’s better to have an unknown than a known candidate that people don’t like.”?

                thank you

                • Baron Von J@lemmy.world
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                  that was the original statement Flying Squid was replying to before you joined in the thread, Squid just didn’t seem to notice that you’re not the same commenter.

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                    i feel like i’m taking crazy pills

                    somebody tells me they’ve quoted my words, and they haven’t, and i ask them to clarify, and i’m sealioning?

                    no, they’re just full of shit

                    what are you talking about?

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            the commenter you’re replying to now isn’t the one who made that claim, and for some reason they aren’t speaking up to clarify that about themselves.