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    One of, if not the first major book burning in Nazi Germany occured on May 6th, 1933, at the Institute of Sexology, a foundation known for their advocacy for transgender and homosexual equality.

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      “Trans people didn’t exist in the past.”

      You literally destroyed our history to perpetuate this myth. We’ll never erase your history, just show how it was a lie undeserving of respect.

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        When you’re on the right side of history it’s better to leave history intact. It shows what you had to fight. When you’re on the wrong side you need it destroyed, so people don’t realize how bad you are.

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      It’s quite interesting that academics back then knew homosexuality and transgenderism are completely normal and not aberrations. Even Sigmund Freud also agreed.

      It’s just that society as a whole is completely lgbt. I always say it is the relic of homophobic teachings from Abrahamic religions. Ancient Greeks and Romans were completely fine with homosexuality until Christianity became enforced in Europe and elsewhere; then later Islam came along and did the same.

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        To be fair that’s mostly a case of “even a broken clock is right twice a day”. Psychology was still in its infancy back then and they had so few ideas how to actually help people that insulin shock therapy and lobotomy seemed like good ideas. When looking at it with modern knowledge it’s easy to say they already knew when pointing at the bits of decent ideas back then. In reality that’s cherry picking between the heaps of wrong and outright dangerous ideas prevalent at the time.

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      Yes. Look up Dr. Magnus Hirschfeld and his gender affirming care in early 20th century Germany. The Berlin “Institut für Sexualwissenschaft” was the world’s first trans clinic from 1919 until the Nazis destroyed it 1933.

      Watch Eldorado: Everything the Nazis Hate about Berlin’s vibrant trans community and how the rise of the nazis destroyed them.

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    5 years ago…

    5 years ago was 2019, that statement is equally funny as it is horrifying

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    It makes me feel icky to type it out… The terms “tranny” and “transvestite” were very common nomenclature in the 90s. In conversation, movies, television. Trans people were often a punchline. And absolutely existed.

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      Transvestite, I believe, is also a term applied to intersex persons as well, as far as I know… At least historically.

      The condition of being intersex, as far as I’m aware, is a well known condition dating back really far.

      Those people truly have no gender (and/or they’re both genders? IDK), so “trans” doesn’t really apply to them IMO.

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        intersex people are exactly that - somewhere outside of the binary of the two sexes. Thanks to them we see the clearest example of how gender is simply assigned to a child at birth. Majority of intersex children are forced into one of the binary sexes and then forcefully assigned a gender to match so they can be “normal”.

        and it honestly comes down to the individual if they see themselves as trans or not, some might see what their parents did to be a forced transition, some might want to detransition from that, some might not

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        People used to use hermaphrodite as a slur not that long ago for intersex people, as well.

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    Electronic music pioneer and fuckin LEGEND Wendy Carlos, thank you very much.

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    I’ve known about this woman for years and been a Tron fan since I wore out the VHS when I was six, and I never realized they were connected.

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      Yep. Made the Tron score sound like a video arcade, hence the ubiquitous discordances. This piece titled The Light Sailer features the Tron Scherzo (What I think of the Tron Theme, though now the love theme is called that).

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    I just wish more people would talk about her music instead of her gender. I know she’s bitter or dissatisfied about Switched on Bach, but I still listen to it regularly. There aren’t many pieces of instrumental music that can actually make me laugh, but it does. Bach works on synth so well. Largely due to Carlos’ efforts.

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      I was in a record store a few months ago, saw a copy of Switched on Bach, thought it would be interesting, and picked it up. Blew me away. Then I googled it, learned the story and how groundbreaking it was.

      Now I’ve got a few albums of hers from that era. Great stuff.

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    Yeah I saw some videos of her trying to dress up as a man in some presentation video about an electronic instrument and it just felt so out of place. She’s definitely a woman.

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      This seems nuts but it’s true. She had privately transitioned but hadn’t yet come out in 1970, and had to make some public appearances wearing awkward fake sideburns (and maybe a short-haired wig?) to pose as a man. More info here on Pink News.

    • As a kid I listened to Walter Carlos’ Switched on series, and was the kind of nerd to be a huge fan at the time. Then suddenly Wendy Carlos was continuing Walter’s work and claiming she was responsible for everything Walter had done.

      I was like ten, and we didn’t have the internet or even CDs yet, so it sound like a sibling or marital spat, and eventually the news trickled down they were one and the same.

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    The first programmer was a woman (Ada Lovelace), the person who laid the foundation for all modern computing was gay (Alan Turing), and the person who revolutionized modern chip design was trans (Lynn Conway). Computer science history is filled with queerness and diversity.

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      How dare you forget Sophie Wilson, inventor of the ARM chip (which exists in literally every phone pretty much since… 1997?) 😆

      She also partakes in Europython (though not sure if she joined this year, but she was there last year, even though I missed both xD), for the Python nerds.

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    Are They the ones with the sick sideburns playing with a homemade synth in that video from the 70s?

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      Already have seen this. I have seen arguments pointing out what the Nazis did to trans people, the first clinic for trans people, and the research materials on it, get met with replies that it’s revisionist, fraudulent, jewish, propaganda.

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        JK Rowling did that not too long ago. (She didn’t call it Jewish, but absolutely called it lies and propaganda that trans people and trans researchers were early targets for the Nazis and victims of the Holocaust.)

        I don’t say this to obsess over the Harry Potter author, but to point out that you don’t have to go cherry picking to find this shit. She’s a prominent person using her platform to spread bigotry and misinformation.

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          oh yeah, i know about her, she is putting that stuff into the mainstream. Worst part is, she is likely so touchy about this because of her own gender identity issues that she has ignored rather than resolve.

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            Yeah. I know that calling bigots secretly closeted is problematic, but IIRC she has outright said that, if she were a young person today, she would question her gender identity.

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              Oh, I am not just saying this because she is anti-trans, I am saying this because she has been speaking about her issues with gender for like 20, nearly 20, years now. The more that she came out with, the more hard line anti-trans she showed herself to be. This is probably made all the worse from her trauma from rape. But hey, I am not her psychologist.

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                Totally understood, and I apologize for implying you might have. It was not my attention. I just meant that, even though it’s something I avoid jumping to conclude, it does happen, and there’s reason to believe it’s the case with Rowling. She’s got issues. It doesn’t absolve her of anything, but there’s a little pity in my condemnation.

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                  Yeah, I didn’t take that comment as accusatory, just figured I would make my position clear. There is a body of evidence that shows that the more intense someone’s homophobia is, the more likely they are to be sexually aroused by homoerotic stuff. However, this does not mean homophobes are likely to be closeted queers. The vast majority of these bigots are not, in fact, homosexuals. However, every public homophobe gets a lot of reactions suggesting they are, often even from gay people. Not great.

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        Worth noting: a lot of the material from that German trans clinic in the 1920s-30s was destroyed by the doctors themselves. Y’know. To protect their patients from the god-damned Nazis.