‘no immediate timeline’ toward monetization
Soo, starting tomorrow
Tried Threads briefly. It’s full of the same people who comment on or create Facebook reels. Insta-political trolling, deliberately wrong info just to get people to comment and correct it, “I’m stupidly out of the loop on this ridiculously popular topic, can someone tell me why [thing] is?” Just to get every know-it-all to reply. Like every low-effort post on Reddit ever.
Couple that with the inability to sort, and the inability for notifications to take you to the post you were having a discussion on, and I gave up after about 3-4 days.
The platform sucks and so do the participants.
And this is why it’s not a good idea to federate with Threads.
There are myriad reasons not to federate with Threads.
On the contrary, that’s how you get an ad-free access to Threads content.
Interesting that you think that I may be interested in Threads content.
9/10 of the most followed accounts on Fedi are on Threads, so you may not, but clearly many many people do.
Interesting that you think that I may be interested in Threads content.
I’m not interested in what content you are interested in. You (Edit: Not even you, gravitas_deficiency. Why even interject as if you were the person I replied to?) made a comment regarding blocking Threads content for everyone. Let everyone decide for themselves which accounts to follow, don’t promote not to federate at all just because you personally don’t want to follow accounts there. Just don’t click the follow button, duh.
Go to some junk instance that’s willing to federate if you want.
Federating with Threads makes an instance unacceptable as far as most of us are concerned. Their mere existence is malignant.
Go to some junk instance that’s willing to federate if you want.
The Mastodon instance I use already does and absolutely nothing negatively happened to it. Mastodon users can just block entire instances on their own if they happen to not like any content from there.
Federating with Threads makes an instance unacceptable as far as most of us are concerned. Their mere existence is malignant.
That’s based on conspiracy theories and not an actually informed decision based on how the Fediverse works. Most of you don’t even understand that Threads content wouldn’t even show up on Lemmy in the first place. Threads doesn’t even have communities.
Because Facebook hasn’t done anything yet.
Blocking Facebook as a user is not good enough. Any server that connects to them legitimizes them and is not acceptable behavior.
It absolute is not a conspiracy, and most people unwilling to participate in any server that interacts with Facebook in any way are doing so exactly because they understand the technology and Facebook’s history. Literally everything Facebook has ever touched turned to dogshit. “I won’t participate in a platform that doesn’t completely block Facebook” is not the naive, uninformed position. (That’s using Facebook and their other platforms.) It’s the people who recognize how pure fucking evil Facebook is.
Pardon my generalization, but literally no one is interested in threads
That is not a generalization…
Ads don’t federate.
bold of you to assume that ads won’t just be disguised as regular posts (and therefore federate)
Edit: after reading the article I heavily suspect ads will federate. As is they are just specially marked posts so I see no reason to think they won’t federate.
My instance is defederated from threads. At the time I mildly disagreed with that decision. Federated ads would vindicate that decision. I don’t need threads content that badly.
I don’t need threads content that badly.
You can block entire servers yourself. No need for an instance to defederate.
Yes and this was my reasoning for saying it would be fine to federate. But I’ll point out that federating ads would mean using my server’s infrastructure to serve ads on behalf of someone else. That would cost the admin more money and would require more user donations to keep it going. So just being able to block isn’t the necessary solution. Not sure that was even your point but I wanted to bring it up.
But I’ll point out that federating ads would mean using my server’s infrastructure to serve ads on behalf of someone else.
Marvel Comics could make an account on any Mastodon server and make posts to promote an upcoming movie. That’s a regular post, containing promotional material. What makes it an ad (or a sponsored post) in IG/Threads terms is to push such posts to users via targeting algorithms who didn’t subscribe to Marvel Comics. Threads cannot do that via ActivityPub, so your Mastodon server cannot serve Threads ads.
I don’t get why anyone even uses it. There are other better options that aren’t run by Facebook.
Most people are some combination of lazy, uninformed, stressed, and stupid. Can’t think long term, just trying to get to tomorrow.
Don’t worry, Threads Pro will have you covered for an ad reduction for 3.99/mo.! And Threads Pro Plus for 5.99/mo. will get rid of them all by 2030!
Tomorrow.
That’s when.
Stop using meta services.
Honestly surprised there are no ads yet. I thought that was the whole point of the website…
They have to build social inertia first. This is something Facebook figured out a long time ago and is well-documented. They were begging for money from investors to keep the site running and Zuck refused to run ads because the site was still growing like crazy.
It might be years yet before they start running ads but rest assured they will eventually.
You don’t raise temperature while the frog is in the pond.
I don’t understand this metaphor. Is it about frog breeding for later eating? Why else would you want to heat your pond, irrespective of the frog. And why is there a greater incentive to heat the pond when there’s no frog, and vice versa? So many questions!
They need to make it nice first, to reel people in. Once they are in and invested, that’s when ads start.
Well that sounds enshitty.
Yep. that’s the classic shitty business model
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Make a site that’s attractive to use for a lot of people
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Once you have enough people, lock in the users with network effect, walled garden, etc
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Use the users to draw in businesses
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Lock in the businesses and squeeze them for profit.
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Squeeze users and businesses for money, abandon any maintenance and improvement on the site except for monetization.
It’s the 3 D’s.
- Develop the product
- Draw people in
- Dump a nice steamy log on the whole thing
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Hey, I’ve seen that one!
It’s a classic (enshittification tactic)
