• llii@discuss.tchncs.de
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          And this without a disc drive. Unbelievable. It’s > $1000 (incl. tax) in Germany with a disc drive (If this is even compatible).

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          Damn… originally it was rumored to be the late ‘00s meme price. With how powerful the regular PS5 is, I don’t see the value in that… even more if you want a disc drive? That’s close to mid-high end computer price.

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          I had to check your profile to see if you’re the coworker I was just messaging about this who just corrected me about this lawl

          also furry gang uwu

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        Sony sees they finally have no real competitors in the console market so they reverted back to their most anti-consumer form and mindset

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          Fantastic. I sure hope they also keep adding in Sony account requirements to their computer game (I will not sign up for a Sony account)

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    How is the bootleg ps5 controller market? I don’t have a ps5 myself but it seems like the obvious answer is to just buy the highest quality off-brand at the better price if you don’t want to pay more.

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      That haptic feedback on the PS5 controller is a rare feature that actually adds something to a controller. If there are third-party options with the haptics, I’d love to know about them, because they kind of spoil you once you get used to them.

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        Yeah the PS5 controller is about the only innovative part of this console generation. The adaptive triggers and haptics are just great. I use one on the PC and for the games that support the extra features they really do add an extra dimension.

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        I don’t have a PS5 but bought a controller. The first time I was playing a game that supported that feature, I thought my shoulder buttons had broken somehow. I suddenly had to press very hard after pressing the button halfway, and it was clicking. It clicked a bit later that it was a feature when it wasn’t happening all the time, just when doing a certain thing in the game.

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          The touch pads on the steam deck are freaky like this. I thought my left one was broken until I used it in a game compared to the os menu.

          Also, motion controls are wicked awesome in shooting games.

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        Funny because I noticed the haptic feedback for the first time recently after owning my PS5 for over a year and was instantly looking for ways to disable it. I don’t trust an unnecessary vibrating motor not to fuck up the parts of the controller I actually care about keeping functional and the Dualsense battery life is abysmal enough as it is

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      I just got a 8BitDo pro 2 because every PlayStation controller for the last 4yrs has broken in less than 6 months and it’s great. Feels good, connects over Bluetooth, and has Hall effect joysticks that aren’t prone to drift, which was the Sony controller main issue. All for $50. I think I’m done with Sony controllers.

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        How is its compatibility with the PS4/5? Might snag one but am worried that it would be subpar compared to an original controller - for example because of a missing touch pad

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        I just got a PS4 like last week. I have They are billions…and that’s it. Although I’m really only interested in spiderman.

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    Much as I’ve come to hate Xbox, this could be the beginning of signs of monopoly - they don’t have so much competition anymore, so they can do what they want. Certainly doesn’t help that unofficial controllers have never been good.

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      They are not good at least partialy beacuse of sony which apparently actively sabotaged them. At least dualshock 4 . It may be better with dualsense alghtough i doubt it .

      Also another cavieat is that they unfortunetly are quite affordable for what they offer. Even on pc the recommendation is usualy to buy console controler ( alghtough not nessearily current gen one ). They truly pack quite a bit of technology in them.

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        I mean, what other type of controller would you buy on PC if you’re looking to buy a game controller? Unless you’re not including 3rd party controllers as “console controllers”. Afaik, the xbox pro controller is still considered the best controller to use on PC, and while it is made by Microsoft, it’s not a controller that comes with the console.

        The PC controller market just isn’t large enough to support pc-only controllers. Of course the recommendation is to always buy a console controller, pc controllers don’t exist! 😂

        Yes, I know some games have their own controller type like flight sticks, game pads, and OSU, but nobody is seriously using those for rocket league and elden ring.

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          By console controlers i meant first party console controlers. So dualshock,dualsense, official xbox controlers or switch pro controler ( Most commonly xbox , alghtough recently i saw uptick in recomending PlayStation controlers ). The 3rd party controlers are either poor quality or just as expensive and quite often both ( which is probably why console official controlers are recommended as sort of stamp of quality )

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    Probably because its the most selling hardware they produce.

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      They keep getting stick drift at insane rates (anecdotal evidence), which sony ensures is a great pain to get fixed, assuming you’re in warranty.
      Ive just replaced one stick in my friends ds5 with the hall effect type, which should outlast the rest of the controller and cost £1.50 (which I’m sure would be less wholesale).

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        I’ve got the feeling that drift is an issue that is becoming more prevalent more and more.

        I have controllers from ps1 and ps2 that work flawlessly nowadays. But the more current the controller the more probable it has stick drift.

        I’m not all for conspiracies. But I wouldn’t be surprised if this is a lightning bulbs type of pact to introduce programmed obsolescence on a product that otherwise would just last forever without need to buy replacements.

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          You gotta think to the degree of control the ps2 had is very much a drop in the bucket to the sensitivity of new controlers. I think they have complicated things to much so a ever so slight drift which used to not even register is now being picked up.

          The biggest thing all consoles could do is make a dead zone calibration tool. It would allows people experiencing stick drift to reduce the detection of movement prolongibg the life of a controler

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    I guess my plan to hold out for the Pro to see if the regular console drops in price isn’t going to work.

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    My newer PS5 controller suddenly started refusing to charge when plugged into a USB - the PS5 gave a warning that the charge was too high and it made my PC’s USB slots stop working for a bit after plugging it in. Glad they made that alternate way of charging at the bottom, as I got a charge stand and it worked.

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    But they have this crazy rumble system that is used for 2 games that you really need.

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      The new Duelsense features are used in just about every single game on PS5. I have yet to come across any AAA game even from a non-Sony publisher who doesn’t use them.

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        Yup i see that complaint very often and i do not understand where pepole get it. The r2 l2 whatewer its called thingy is probably the most used new controler feature since analog became a thing ( or perhaps speaker on the controler. Thats used quite extensivly since dualshock 4 ).

        The touchpad is still usless tho despite it being a thing since ps4.

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          I think I could count on one hand the number of games I’ve played that actually used the touch features of the touch pad (swipe, pinch, etc…) rather than have it just be a big button.

          I forget which game it was but they let you control the map with it. Was actually pretty good once you got used to it.

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            I mean its good enough just as a quick setting menu like in kilzone. I wonder why more games dont use it as such. I would love to have it as quick setting in cyberpunk so i can quickly change between grenade rocket launcher and the camuflage ( or to be precise map whatewer i need there , thats just my particular build ).

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              I’m disappointed in No Mans Sky for not using it for the Utility Menu they have. Really was a missed opportunity.

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            One part of the touch pad that’s used very often is the touch zones, effectively using the touchpad as two buttons. Outside of that though it’s very rare. I think Ghost of Tsushima used the swipe.

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          I remap the sides of the touch pad to be Select and Start, because the damn normal buttons are way too small for my thumbs!