• ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca
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    11 months ago

    People who complain that Lemmy is full of tankies have never seen the comment section of a meme making fun of landlords. I’m convinced Lemmy is actually full of landlords.

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      11 months ago

      can you link one? I’ve never seen them not treated as the bottom feeding scum they are.

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      11 months ago

      Both tankies and landlords find that being a part time dog walker is an acceptable day job. The difference is that the tankies live in their parent’s basement instead of working and the landlord lets other people live in his basement instead of working.

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      11 months ago

      Where tho? Everyone is clearly taking the piss out of the meme and pretending to agree with it. Nobody is actually out there tipping their landlord(well, I sure fucking hope not at least…).

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    11 months ago

    Complaining about landlords feel weird to me as I love my landlord. But they are a nonprofit organisation, so that definitely helps.

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      11 months ago

      Hey, I get it! If I’m gonna stop shitposting for a while I do think the system of landlordship is problematic but that definitely doesn’t mean all landlords are bad. Now back to shitposting.

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        11 months ago

        Yeah, I definitely think it’s one of those issues where USA drew the short straw ;)

        But it is funny seeing all the complaining in the shitposts from my privileged position

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          11 months ago

          It’s not only the United States that has landlords, unless I misunderstood what you mean.

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    11 months ago

    Sorry OP, not everyone is as much of a sourpuss as you when it comes to hating landlords. I understand that the problem is not with landlords that own a second or even third house, but with people and corporations that own 5+ houses. They are the ones that are hoarding the stock and using it as a “get, rich, quick” investment scheme. You want to be mad, then atleast be mad at the right people.

    Sorry you can’t afford a house OP, but I’m not okay with you demonizing regular people that have worked their asses off to be able to afford a second house, and rented out their starter home. Does that make me “fucking love” landlords? No, it just means I’m being a rational fucking adult about it.

    Edit: ITT: The 99% fighting over the scraps that the 1% leave behind, whilst doing their best to fuck over one another.

    Fuck me for wanting financial stability, I guess.

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      You contradicted yourself. Op can’t get a starter home but the starter home he would have bought is held hostage by the “smol” landlord. Pick one.

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        Almost one out of every four homes is owned by a corporation. You’ll run into them if your buying or selling a house. I refuse to sell to corporations, I don’t care if it’s even a cash offer.

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      11 months ago

      My landlord has only this one second apartment and never responds unless we refer to laws and work with deadlines.

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      Work their asses off? Renters work 2+ jobs to make rent. Being in a position to own a home has nothing to do with hard work. The unsaid part of that argument is that people who rent don’t work as hard or else they’d own a home too, but of course this is just self serving delusions of grandeur. I have never met a landlord with multiple jobs. I have never met a landlord that does even the bare minimum for their renters. We have to fight tooth and nail to be treated by the legal bare minimum. I have never lived in a place built to code, I have never had a landlord who even glanced at the tenancy laws. I end up teaching them their jobs and they STILL don’t do it.

      Everyone works hard, only assholes think they are successful because they work harder than others.

      There’s nothing wrong with wanting financial stability. Getting it by taking a huge chunk of a poor person’s paycheque because that’s where the market is, is immoral. Having x amount of money to afford a home isn’t an indicator that you’d be a good candidate to provide a home for another human being, but it’s the only requirement.If you do that, then yes, very fuck you. If you fillow all the rules in a place built to code and charge way less than market prices, than not fuck you. Thank you.

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        I think the reason is “I don’t want to have to work until I die” actually.

        Investment property is one of the few remaining ladders of social mobility. Does it suck that it doesn’t extend down far enough? Yes. But removing it as an option just further widens the gap between the billionaires and everyone else.

        Where’s that meme with the oreos

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          If you have half the population each have 1 investment property. You must have the other half renters. You literally want to create two classes. Those with investment properties and those with no property. One class above another. You’re just using billionaires as a shield. You want to put yourself in a class above other people.

          We should all work so that each person has one home.

          And the “I don’t want to work until I die” should be covered by social insurance/social security instead of making someone else a renter.

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            Your argument assumes there’s no utility in renting, which is simply not true. A house is a PITA to maintain; stuff breaks all the time. Also, moving when you own the place is much more difficult, and some people value the flexibility of being able to hop from one part of the country to another. If we rewind 12 years, back before rent prices and housing costs went batshit insane, it was a perfectly reasonable option to rent instead of own, even if you could afford otherwise. Rent was basically paying for the service of not needing to maintain a building and not locking yourself down.

            Those with investment properties and those with no property. One class above another. You’re just using billionaires as a shield. You want to put yourself in a class above other people.

            Do you realize how much money a billion dollars is? One class above another, like a walk up a hill – and then the billionaire class is on a fucking space station. Again, I’m reminded of the Oreos meme.

            And yet again, owning housing does not indicate wealth in a “normal” housing market, so your supposed rent/own class division isn’t even true. Very wealthy people can still be renters. Or do you think “landlords” can afford to rent a penthouse in Manhattan?

            And the “I don’t want to work until I die” should be covered by social insurance/social security

            Well it’s not. So make that a reality before attacking people for trying to better their situation.

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              I really, really want to see that Oreo meme you’re talking about.

              Also about not wanting to be tied down. I totally get it. You know what fixes that? Co-operative housing. Some links: https://campus.coop/ (Toronto) https://www.nasco.coop/ (North America) https://www.studenthomes.coop/ (United Kingdom)

              These are housing cooperatives for the most mobile population: students. And you know what? No need for landlords what so ever, while still providing location mobility and the possibility of hiring an external management team or (using democracy) elect amongst yourselves. Again disproving your very point.

              I really like housing cooperatives but we have way too few of them. As a young professional moving between cities it would be great.

              What do you get from a landlord owning housing as opposed to housing cooperatives? (This is the [only] question I want you to answer)

              I can tell you what you get from cooperatives that you don’t get from landlords. You don’t have to pay for an ROI for the landlord. That is it. Same maintenance costs. Similar price for home to start but better for the inhabitants.

              Do you realize how much money a billion dollars is?

              Not relevant, stop using billionaires as a shield.

              One class above another, like a walk up a hill – and then the billionaire class is on a fucking space station. Again, I’m reminded of the Oreos meme.

              Again not relevant. To use your metaphore I don’t want a space station and I don’t want a hill. You on the other hand want a hill (and you being the king on the hill) but no space station. I say no to both.

              Again I want that Oreos meme.

              Well it’s not. So make that a reality before attacking people for trying to better their situation.

              Well maybe it would be if people who “invest” in real estate don’t oppose increasing or bettering social insurance. Those who are the biggest proponents of real estate investors are the biggest opponents of social insurance. Social insurance comes from general taxation of working people. Those people (like you) want to move the money working people pay to taxes for general social insurance and instead pay all that money towards rent that landlords (like you) control. You are literally moving money from general social insurance to your own pockets. And both young people and actual poor old people suffer. You do not oppose tyranny. You want to become the tyrant.

              Another option is a Community Land Trust (CLT). Community owned land which is similar but under a different structure with a wider ownership structure. https://www.communityland.ca/ (Canada)

              And guess what? With CLTs you can actually invest yourself if you don’t live inside it, because a broader ownership structure and you don’t have to be a landlord. Awesome!!! Oh wow!

              Try it in your city! Here’s one from mine https://www.oclt.ca/invest/ (Ottawa, ON, Canada)