Sadly my Right Wing friends insist it’s “Just the Heritage Foundation” and that the “REAL” GOP already rejects it
So naive…
No conservative voter thinks poorly of Project 2025. Every conservative in the U.S. is either fine with it or excited about it.
A conservative who pretends it’s not their platform is lying, either to placate you or to save face.
Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation, even when those words come from friends or family.
Actually Trump is shitting himself over Project 25 because Moderate Republicans don’t wanna give up their porn and condoms.
Right Wing
friends
There’s a tough one right there.
I heard an NPR listening, CNN watching person tell me yesterday that the Heritage Foundation was conservative extremists and not to take them seriously.
I wouldn’t… if they weren’t the ones writing policy
Circulate
Whoever added the citations to this is doing extremely important work. It needs to be finished though.
Be the change you want to see in the world
These kinds of projects are good for crowd sourcing. Nobody has read all 900 pages, and watched all the speeches and read all the articles, etc etc. But the community taken together, can. Or at least come much closer anyway.
Except that those page numbers don’t all seem to match those statements.
Yeah, it’ll be important to check the work.
What does pg mean?
Page
I’ve been skimming through the listed page numbers so maybe I missed it but where in pg 545-581 does it talk about “[ending] marriage equality”? That whole section seems to be talking about the FBI and DOJ
This is what’s killing me. When our ‘news’ turns out to look like propaganda, it hurts our cause. There is enough bad. It doesn’t need to be exaggerated.
Are you going by the page numbers on the pdf file, or at the bottom of the page? There’s several blank pages so they don’t match up
How is continue to pack the supreme court “happening rn”? I wish Biden was doing that but…
I’ve said it many times, I wish the boogeyman Democratic party that exists in Republicans’ fevered imaginations was real. They get shit done.
Lmao, how does they slipped “defund the police” there on plain sight
Defund Police when used by left is a poorly named refrain for “police reform”.
When MAGA uses it they mean “defund police literally so that we can’t get charged with shit, and the ghettos get worse.”
What are you referencing?
Page 133
The graphic doesn’t say defund the police that I see.
The FBI and DHS are federal police.
Are they? If so… cool semantics, you pain in the ass?
The FBI is literally the federal equivalent to state police. So anything that violates federal rather than state law or involves a crime crossing state lines.
“trump world” sounds like the most disappointing and predatory theme park ever.
I want to get off Mr. Trump’s wild ride!
You don’t get a choice in the matter. You get to leave when Trump’s Wild Ride is done with you.
Sign: “You must be this ($$$) rich to ride this ride.”
If you are not rich, you may donate ($) to those more fortunate than you until God decides to make you rich!
“No shoes, no shirt, no common decency? No problem!”
Not at all (as long as you’re rich enough to bribe him and get served by his capers).
If he is elected, they won’t keep trying to pretend that they are against these positions.
The thing that pisses me off the most about Project 2025 is that there’s no Project 2029 from the left.
Why would the left wait until 2029?
The left shouldn’t wait. It should have started years ago.
Project 2025 didn’t start yesterday. https://web.archive.org/web/20230920110555/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/20/us/politics/republican-president-2024-heritage-foundation.html
It didn’t even start in 2023. That’s the culmination of years of planning.My point is that if Trump wins, there will be no use for leftist political projects in 2029. If it’s a political project we should be starting now, and if Trump wins it will need to be a military plan that should start right away.
GUERILLA WARFARE AND SPECIAL FORCES OPERATIONS: FM 31-21 https://a.co/d/0eNL71EZ
Clicks on link thinking it’s a Rick Roll
Pleasantly surpised it’s a genuine US Army Manual on Guerilla Warfare and Special Forces
Hopefully, “pleasantly surprised” is code for “saved for frequent reading and future reference”. 😶
Project 2025 has been around for years. How have people not noticed it?
The news refused to cover it until people made it a big deal online.
It’s how it always works.
Because republican voters don’t pay attention to what their party is doing. They only know that trans bad, brown bad, gay bad
Dont forget socialists,l - they’re after their money they might earn if they just worked harder or won the lottery.
They only do or care what fox “news” tells them to. They lack critical thinking and empathy.
Don’t forget helping the poor bad. I’m pretty sure they hate the poor more than any other category. They don’t help the poor, just like american jesus intended.
They don’t help the poor, just like american jesus intended.
Speaking if which:
conservatives help the poor by personal, direct giving. there’s lots of data on charitable giving broken down by party affiliation.
Which usually includes implied “follow my religious beliefs to be eligible.” A big difference between personal giving and allowing a social safety net is the decision to limit who gets your money. Which I do get; I want my team dollars going to stuff that helps everyone, like welfare, education, transportation, etc, not to military industrial complex or subsidies for already massive and union busting billionaires.
Still, on the conservative side it tends to aim more towards extremely limited targets, usually filtered through a lens of bigotry.
Reminds me of that early South Park episode with Starvin Marvin. “Open your bibles, everyone…Bible = Food!”
there’s a pretty big difference between what you are saying, “i don’t like the way they help”, and what the person i responded to was saying, “they don’t help and hate the poor”.
Regressives only give to people selectively. The statement above reminds me of the Sikh family that moved to my hometown in the early 80’s when I was a kid. They came to take over a gas station that one of their family members had recently bought. They were the only sikh in town. All kinds of names thrown at them like towel heads, sand n*****r and so on. A unofficial but damn near complete boycott of the gas station commenced. Their kids were treated like shit at school by nearly everyone bar the Catholics who were mostly Hispanic. I was eye witness to that part. The station was not making enough money and rather than ask their family for help they finally reached out for help feeding their kids to a local food bank that was christian in everything but name but were rejected. They however stuck it out and finally after thirty years or so sold it to a regressive couple who promptly ran it into the ground after embezzling lottery money.
The only family from India who owned both motels were treated fairly well, to their face at least.
So go on tell me how giving regressives are.
Or many republican voters do know about project 2025 and they like it.
There’s some of those, sure, but this shit like banning contraceptives, banning no fault divorce, attacking Medicare and social security-these are universally unpopular policies. That’s why trump is trying to pretend his campaign didn’t literally write this shit.
The conversations I’ve had in the Deep South with Republicans always boil down to: they have no idea.
I have found that the best way to argue with republicans is to tell them directly what they’re actually voting for, because they don’t know. They’re either dumb as shit, or they’re greedy and think democrats will raise taxes.
The positions that a lot of the trump supporters take up are whatever they all mutually agree are their positions, and/or whatever they are told is their position du jour… in other words, today they may say that they are pro one thing and con a different thing, but their loyalty is to the party, not to the merits of the positions they espouse.
The moment they were told that they no longer feared and hated Russia, they started saying “you know that Putin guy isn’t so bad after all”, as if the Cold War never happened, as if their perceived greatest enemy for the last 50 years wasn’t Russia and communism.
A lot of them hated Jews too until they were told that their side supports Israel.
It’s straight out of 1984… “We were always at war with Eastasia.”
They will easily adopt the project 2025 positions if that’s what their god emperor tells them to do.
A lot of them hated Jews too until they were told that their side supports Israel.
They still do hate Jews. They just consider Israel to be a convenient solution to their “Jew problem”. Not to mention that it’s the sort of ethnostate a lot of them would really like to create themselves.
It’s banning porn.
And contraception. That’s a real 1 2 punch.
Might as well ban anti-depr… oh right they’re getting rid of Medicaid, so they basically are for me.
It’s a long manifesto. If you stop reading after 3 pages, it hit all the buttons of a usual Republican. The real crazy is spared for later.
Because on its surface it sounds like something the magas would make up.
It is something they made up. That’s what plans are.
Even the right wingers are pretending like it’s nothing.
Not even arguing
What a bunch of idiots. A group funded by their politicians that frequently provides them with “model” legislation now has a manifesto regarding how to overthrow democracy and we’re supposed to believe it’s no big deal.
Fascists know what they’re doing when they gaslight you.
Of course they think Doogie Howser is the good guy in that scene.
Yeah, I thought that was him. He’s gay BTW. I wonder if those conservatives know that.
What the fuck, people are JUST NOW hearing about this??
A couple days ago, new evidence came out about Trump’s pedophilia. I have yet to hear about it in mainstream media.
Jane Doe vs Trump & Epstein. All of the corroborating depositions are out there. Nobody cares for some reason.
About goddamn time. We heard more about Hunter Biden’s dick than how Trump rapes kids the last seven years.
The media wants Trump back in power. He generated so many clicks for them.
You’d be surprised at just how little the average voter knows about politics. There’s a reason a lot of people wish politics would go back to being boring and not something everyone talked about.
Indeed. Pretty much everyone I know over the age of 50 gets all of their news from Fox/CNN and maybe facebook. They’re oblivious and make up the majority of the people that actually go and vote.
The fox news affect. My mother thought all of these policies were coming from democrats, for some fucking reason
Never underestimate how uninformed people are.
I was so naive so as to think there was no way we’d elect Trump.
Now I just assume we’ll do the dumbest thing on offer.
Plenty of them are informed, and DGAF.
Tribalism and decades right wing propaganda mean that they’ll vote for anyone on the GOP ticket, even when they are clearly terrible and debatably conservative.
Jfc Americans. How did any one not know about project 2025?
The rest of the world is watching you elect your new supreme leader eternal and you guys are just sleep walking it through.
“Yeah, but the not fascist was bad at speaking, so I’m just gonna elect the fascist person by not voting.”
…the not fascist was bad at speaking one time, so I’m just gonna elect the lying/rapist/felon fascist person by not voting
Let’s not be ridiculous here, he’s had plenty of times where he’s struggled to articulate. I agree it’s insane to not vote for him, but these type of statements just give ammo to trump supporters to point to Biden supporters and say how clueless they are.
Biden is old, but the man has also overcome a pronounced stutter. I’m more interested in policy and the people he puts in place.
Agreed. But pretending that this has just been a one time thing doesnt do anything but make you look like you haven’t been paying attention at all
I see you’re hip to the new form of left praxis on Lemmy.
It’s how bad our media silos are and how disengaged many people are. Not a good sign.
My wife who has enough on her plate working in trauma just texts me out of the blue yesterday with something like, “just read about project 2025. Holy shit!”
I was like oh sweet summer child lol.
I told my wife the minute I heard about it a few months back… Do you not talk to her?
We have kids, work opposite schedules, and she deals with death and stress on a daily basis that few other professions compare. I let her decide when she wants to tune in because she tends to get overwhelmed by it all. She and I see eye-to-eye and it changes nothing on how we vote anyway.
My husband has specifically asked me not to talk to him about politics. He has verbalized he feels powerless and wants to focus on things he can control more within his immediate realm (dont worry guys, he’s still voting Biden). He’s also asked me to decrease the amount of depressing topics I share with him overall. I did tell him I recommend him read up on it because its “scary AF” and that I was quite scared
However, I do agree with other posters that its the lack of news coverage on the topic is why so many people are uninformed. We need more individuals to share and educate about this.
This is pretty much the identical conversation that occurred with my wife. She tries to remain upbeat and outgoing and gets anxious and depressed by an onslaught of that kind of news. I tend to get more fired up and focused, but my circumstances admittedly permit that more.
When I’ve shown people Project 2025 they often don’t believe it’s real. Despite evidence to the contrary.
it’s real but is it “real” like how the border wall was “real”? I think that’s where a lot of people are at.
There’s a level of apathy that has been a part of American politics my entire life, the logic is that all politicians do is make promises that they never fulfill and anything said about or by a candidate really doesn’t matter, and it’s treated as an axiom.
Obamas years in office without the Hope and Change we all desperately wanted when he was first elected cemented this in the minds of my millennial peers and it was already pervasive in the older generations.
Not pinning it all on Biden here but his quote from 2020 “nothing will fundamentally change” is very much what i reckon the average American believes. Very few believe anything good or ill could happen here.
How did any one not know about project 2025?
Oh, the whole world knew about it, except here in 'merica where the media was gonna surprise us after it was installed.
Election news is especially dismal this year considering who the candidates are, so I think a lot of Americans are tuning out until the last minute.
I tried putting off state and local election stuff until a canvasser came to the door last week and asked about public education funding, because the republican chain all the way up in this state wants nothing but charter schools (along with turning this place into even more of a cesspit). I would’ve found out closer to November, but now it’s going to haunt me for months instead of weeks.
Most people in all countries are extremely ignorant and disinterested about politics. Do not expect more of American voters than you’d expect of your own country’s voters.
A great example of that is Brexit in my own country. People voted for lots of ridiculous reasons both for and against, and in the end we got a crazy close but negative outcome. Just under 52% voted in favour of brexit, but I guarantee much less than half that number truly understood the issues and knew what they were voting for. It was a vote that should never have happened - it was all an arrogant ploy by David Cameron to increase control over his own party and instead it has torn the whole country apart.
People complain about the news media but its just a product of the lazy and disinterested electorate. Mass media doesn’t cater to fact and debate, it caters to shock value to try and get people watching.
That’s why biden has to go - most people don’t care that trump is a lunatic or biden has had successes. Not enough will care about Project 25 even though it will damage many of trumps own voters. All they care about is that biden looks old and sounds like he’s dementing because that’s all that’s cutting through.
Trump World sounds like the shittiest theme park. Even worse than that Willy Wonka Experience.
I heard everyone gets free donuts for life
Okay, they won me over
Except you…you pay you leave
Please, weaponize this! I know the last place you want to go is a Fox News comment section or FB posts but these people need to see how they will be personally affected too.
Weaponize the cuts to social security and medicare as much as you can. Yes, lots of conservatives are a lot cause. But I’m not asking you to reach them on the moral issues, I’m asking to get them rightfully scared of losing social security and medicare/medicaid. Make it personal.
Nice website, bro:
my job has me on i40 in Tennessee a good bit and there was a huge mega porn store off one of the exits
it has been shut down and reopened as a Mega MAGA Store
trump beat titties official the country is fucked
BS. This is exactly what Rump world wants. They love consolidation of power, Christian nationalism, and taking power away from non-white men. They are worried that centrist and moderate red voters will hear about it.
That’s what the headline was about?
Tell me about it. Weird tone of writing for a comment completely aligned with the article.
That’s not true! Their comment reinforced the same ideas in the linked article.
BS. I totally agree with you.
“BS” then goes to repeat what the headline says.
