I figured a close stereotype for men, would be that they should all be farmers. The thing is, there are under two million farmers in the US as of 2023. So statistically, an equivalent occupation/role should have a larger number.

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    “Women should be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen” transcribes to “Men should be shirtless and mentally ill in the garage.”

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      As a millennial, if I could afford a house, I PROMISE you I wouldn’t also be able to afford mental health treatments, or a shirt.

      So this tracks…if I could get a house.

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          You are going to be the best uncle that nobody trusts their kid with after what happened last time they had you watch their house. You have an important role in the community, selling illegal fireworks to bored teens.

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          Honestly, if you’re a millenial in this economy something is wrong with you if you aren’t at least a little crazy.

          The stress is fucking unreal.

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        Clearly you just need to be a man and work harder and more hours, at the expense of your mental health, to be a better provider because that is your only value to your family. The more emotionally shut-off and weekday war-torn you are, the better the space in which you can escape work and home stress by self-isolating and self-medicating with alcohol. Your chosen man-cave is totally not a place to hide your emotional breakdowns where you silently sob as you suffer the masculine burdens of building stress and feelings of inadequacy alone. Just remember, communicating your feelings is what women do; men dig their grave faster and deeper because that takes manly strength.

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          …with the exception of having a family vs living alone, you just described what my life would be life without medical issues. I mean,it’s still mostly what you said. You just left out the part about not affording to be able to pay medical bills too.

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            You made the classic weak feminine male mistake of going to the doctor. A real man never goes to the doctor because you are fine and you just need to be strong and it will go away because it is just a benign affliction. You can’t burden your family with worry or medical debt if you don’t go to the doctor, that’s just science. Weak men are worried about their health before it is too late, strong men fight treatable or curable undiagnosed illnesses until it kills them like a man. Just remember, a real man gets diagnosed before retirement by a coroner.

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        Honestly, us millenials not having houses is probably a huge win for climate change… if I had the space to setup up a forge and learn metalworking I don’t think I’d be able to resist. “But I can do it in minecraft…”

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          Oh my god. We’re going to have a story soon where a bunch of 35 year olds buy a vacant plot of land, and then dig downwards. Then they’ll disrupt some plumbing, or cables run underground, or gas pipes. SOMETHING bad will be cut, and when they get questioned, they’ll say they were strip mining for diamonds.

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          A “garage” means any space a man can claim as his own to self-isolate and cry quietly in. Be it a garage, basement, shed, or man-cave. As long as he can suffer silently and nobody knows, he is a strong man and every strong man needs his “garage”.

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        You might just have to move out of the city, things get way cheaper when you go rural, plus it opens you up for usda loans.

        They’re for rural areas and they will put down 100% of your down payment, but your credit score has to be right and you have to find a nice house, like really nice.

        The one I am about to buy was approved for a usda loan, until they found out that 1 corner of the crawlspace was technically in a 1 in a 100 year flood zone.

        If that doesn’t work you can try fha, their guidelines are a little more lax, but you have to put 3.5% down.

        That’s what I am using and I know that my rent for the next 30 years is fixed until my mortgage insurance falls off.

        That is with no adjustment for inflation either.

        So if shit spikes again, at least my rent effectively got cheaper.🤣😂😞😢

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    Men shouldn’t be allowed near children that aren’t their own. It’s rarely stated but regularly assumed.

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      I think you were implying something different, but I feel like I get a ton of odd comments suggesting it’s weird for me to be out with my own kid. Things like “giving mom the day off?” or “what happened to his mom?”.

      I had friends complain about this kind of thing before I had kids and I thought that they were exaggerating. Nope, it’s all over the place. It’s certainly not everyone, but it is much more common than I expected.

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        Things like “giving mom the day off?” or “what happened to his mom?”.

        I always hated the “are you babysitting?”

        Like NO! These are my fucking kids, I don’t babysit them, I’m parenting

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      I’m 33 and never seen this IRL. Weird. Only heard people mention it online. Must be that thing that doesn’t actually happen and is only perceived on the web.

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    Protectors & providers

    It’s one of the worst kind of inequality which women don’t (or rarely) ever examine and question if it’s compatible with modern ideas

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      Yup, I have an essential tremor and fucking hate that one. I don’t mind strength based tasks… but if I try and screw in a light bulb I’ll probably crush it accidentally… don’t even get me started on appliances like blenders and shit - in the best case scenario I’ll brick the device… but I’ll probably injur myself.

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        I mean no offense at all, and feel free not to answer, but how do you type?

        Is it like a special keyboard, voice to text, or do I just completely misunderstand what you mean?

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          At the moment it comes and goes with stress, as my dad aged it became more and more common but I can usually manage to type (with a lot of autocorrect help and backspace). It also varies with hand posture and that sort of clamping grip really makes me unsteady (for this reason scrubing potatoes is actually extremely difficult for me).

          It’s a neurological thing - almost certainly - so I only know what I’ve observed.

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      Unpopular opinion: We should. Obviously as someone who builds and fixes things for living I’m a little biased but I do look down on men that lack any handyman skills (and so do many women). I think doing things like being able to change a tire on a car is about the bare minimum a man should know how to do. I’ll cut you some slack if you don’t own a car or a licence.

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    Have to be a raging bull of testosterone and manly interests while also being a round the clock worker to be a breadwinner and also being a father figure to any children in your life on demand

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    No wait I know the answer to this one… If you have a penis, you should be able to use tools competently and perform basic maintenance and repairs. I learned this just by watching cartoons and tv when I was a child so I taught myself all that stuff just because I thought you were assumed to. I now take $75+ per hour from men who cant figure out how a screwdriver works. I am virtual husband to many women who married paper shufflers who can’t even tighten a loose doorknob screw.

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      If you have a penis, you should be able to use tools competently and perform basic maintenance and repairs.

      I don’t think a penis is required. I personally think that every human being should know basic maintenance and repair skills.

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          As a woman, I will say that I consider myself blessed that i found a man that not only had basic electrical, mechanical, and plumbing knowledge; but also was willing to share that knowledge with me. Now I can do basic handyman stuff.

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            I moved into a house where a person with “basic electrical skills” lived and there are so many fire hazards and death traps. I wish electrical assistance was cheaper so people doesn’t mess with that. It was an old partner to the person I moved in with and she was upset that I hired an electrician to redo quite alot[

            Not anything against your skills, the phrase just reminded me of my former home :P

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              Agreed, and any major work is done by a licensed electrician, but replacing an outlet or switch is completely doable with training and safety measures.