The issue is not that the parts aren’t titanium, its that there isn’t a paper trail documenting the titanium.
This is an issue, because improperly forged titanium can have issues that makes it unsuitably weak for its intended purpose. Having documentation showing where the materials came from, when it was inspected for defects and when it was manufactured is critical for safety.
United flight 232 had an engine explode in part due to defective titanium. This is a real safety concern.
Though the headline says boeing, the article mentions these undocumented parts being found in airbus planes as well. Its an industry problem, not a Boeing specific one.
It is annoying how the media keeps riding the Boeing name for the clicks. Yes, Boeing fucked up, they aren’t the only one in aerospace fucking up.
Did they “fuck up” though? Or did they intentionally fire their best people in order to save money, knowing the consequences would be cheaper than the profit made.
Yeah, didn’t mean to come across as an apologist. Call a shit spade a shit spade. Just annoyed with the media riding the name trolley for ad clicks.
The problem is it’s actually is sorta Boeing’s fuck up here. The questionable source titanium was caught at spirit aerospace who manufactures parts for Boeing and airbus. Spirit aerospace was originally a Boeing factory that was spun off into its own company in 2005 in one of Boeing idiodic stock pump schemes. Boeing on paper does not have control over spirit aerospace but all of spirit’s leadership came from Boeing with their CEO having worked for Boeing for 31 years. Boeing also has a lot of pull inside spirit being their largest customer by a significant margin. Boeing is currently in talks of buying back spirit aerospace to fix the mess they got themselves into.
Well the alternative here would have been to not say anything and cover it up. They found counterfeit material in their inventory and raised the alarm, nothing better they could have done. I don’t know what the acquisition process was for that stock, maybe they did fuck up by buying it, but once you realize the problem is there you have to say something or people die.
We are really going to have to wait for the FAA’s investigation because there’s still all sorts of questions about their acquisition process and where exactly was the certificate forged. The big question i have thought was when did spirit discover that the certificates were forged because they are claiming parts manufactured all the way back in 2019 were effected. I believe some suspicion on the side of spirit is warranted because this is the same company that is currently being investigated on claims that they were covering up safety issues. Not to speculate too much but I wouldn’t be surprised if spirit knew the titanium was fraudulent as early as 2019 and are only now doing something about it because they are being investigated for other issues and wanted to control the narrative.
What? Read the article? Are you fucking crazy?
There needs to be a new rule where when a headline asks why something sucks ass so tragically the answer is capitalism. It’s always capitalism.
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I can feel the anarchist class consciousness developing 🤤🤤🤤
Well you see, when an executive loves money very much…
Ok, well, you see…they accidentally, and then BAM fake titanium.
“Trytanium”
Dotanium or donotanium there is no trytanium!
It’s true and funny but I cannot enjoy Dilbert as much knowing Scott Adams is a fucking lunatic.
Bad people often make good art.
“Titanium is how much? Fuck it use the fake stuff, I need a new super yacht. What’s the worst that can happen, we have to assassinate some whistle-blowers? Hahahahahahaha we can do whatever we want!” - Boeing Executive
There I figured it out for you
Isn’t the headline misleading? Keep seeing clickbait headlines about this, but I thought it was a matter of improper documentation, not that it wasn’t actually titanium.
So tired of what passes for “journalism” these days. Thanks, RepubliQans! /s
I would not want to be the guy digging through those device history records.
Boeing killed John Barnett
When is the government going to realize that capitalism is becoming a security risk for them.
The amount of companies that they need to rely on to keep their edge on the world stage is staggering. And all that needs to happen is a few of those companies that don’t have developed alternatives making individual decisions to do things cheaper or for more profit will eventually lead to problems like this in critical infrastructure that other countries can take advantage of.
Any system that rewards achievements of any kind work inventions or whatever, will have people cheat to fake it to get the reward. Even if there is no currency and it’s only for instance prestige.
Capitalism is bad, which is why it is regulated. But it’s the least bad system we have for now, so it all depends on good regulation.
This attempt to make equivalent different systems that reward achievements doesn’t hold water when you think about the real world outcomes of different examples. E.g. rewards for research in the scientific community vs rewarding profit maximization in corporate America. There’s a vast trough of dead and sick people separating the two, among other differences.
Capitalism successfully captures regulation (and democracy). The only mechanism that I’m aware of which has shown evidence to resist that is labor organization. But clearly that can be restrained too after a while.
A: Boeing put it there.
Reason: It was cheaper
Apple stoll all of it for their phones
It probably got into the planes with rivets, cause titanium is hard to weld.
I’ll take X company cheaped out, bought from unreliable, dog shit materials provider in country Y (who either purposely or neglectfully knew what they were doing, as a manufacturer), and now has a scape goat despite the root of the issue for 5000 please.
I worked in aerospace manufacturing for a long time. My company (big one) used only certain suppliers so if anything the suppliers are getting the cheap stuff to rip off those who buy for manufacturing. Who were bought from was strictly controlled but who watches the watchmen or metalmen?
And did the metalmen get acquired by some bean men who understand beans but not metal? 🤔
