“And so I come full circle on this response and just want to encourage you with some substance that we are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be,” he said.

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    More people should know what’s in Project 2025. It’s a guide to creating a Judge Dredd universe, where the only people living in it will be the Super Rich and the Super F*cking Poor.

    They’re not even trying to hide it.

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      The terrifying thing is that a sizable portion of this country reads this list and thinks it sounds like a great idea.

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        Some of it. I don’t know that even a sizable portion of this country wants to raise prescription drug prices. I also think a very small percentage wants to get rid of no fault divorce or contraception. Even most Catholics are fine with contraception. And use it too.

        Raising the retirement age? I’d guess that their sizable voting bloc in their 60s wouldn’t be good with that.

        Honestly, I think the more people learn about this, the more they will find things they don’t like about it. Even Republicans.

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          Even Republicans

          Yeah, but they mean all that for other people, not me!

          …hey, what’s that leopard staring at me for?

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    I know it’s meant to be a threat, but he really makes it sound like he’s at our mercy. It will only be bloodless if WE allow it.

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      The important part is to go after him and other people in leadership. They was us to fight the local maga crowd, not them. Fighting the local maga crowd gets us nowhere.

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      It reads as “give up everything and nobody needs to get hurt”. It’s basically a taunt on their holding freedom under duress.

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    Do you all remember how quickly they backed down as soon as ashley babbit was shot? (yes I know I spelled it wrong, I don’t care to honor that piece of trash). A whole crowd of these fuckers. and presumably the most rabid of them, their infantry if you will. These are the cultists who spent money, time, and energy to be there. So they are also the ones with means. Also, presumably a bunch of them were carrying concealed weapons. Then one person gets shot and the entire thing crumbles. Cowards. Through and through cowards. And they think they can win a war?

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      I like the way I once saw it summarized for a non-American person asking about J6:

      Supporters of the fascist ex-President form angry mob threatening to kill politicians; they end up killing four police officers and one of themselves then run away.

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        I’m not defending those traitors, but they didn’t kill 4 police. This is from the wiki on the event.

        “Within 36 hours, five people died: one was shot by Capitol Police, another died of a drug overdose, and three died of natural causes, including a police officer. Many people were injured, including 174 police officers. Four officers who responded to the attack died by suicide within seven months.”

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      It’s simple: Trump wins, they win (unless he fucks it up, which he probably will).

      Trump loses, they lose no matter how violent they get.

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      The reaction of everyone when the shot is fired was absolutely telling. The coward that was right next to her turns and ran. Didn’t even help her or charge an attack with the absolutely massive numbers they had. They were there, at the heart of it all and they turned around and ran because the violence became real and was directed at them.

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    Lots of talk in this thread. I stood during the pandemic against anti-vaccs and no-masks and intend to again. I’ve heard a lot of excuses, mostly surrounding a need to work and pay bills and how they cannot jeopardize that.

    I wonder if there will be excuses this time.

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      I’m not sure why you think the need to work and pay bills isn’t a legitimate reason to not do other things. You have to eat to live and living is a lot harder without a home. Or with a home but without services like running water.

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        Because it’s just an excuse… I shower daily but somehow that task doesn’t prevent me from doing other stuff

        Similarly you can work and pay your bill while still setting time aside to organize, protest, write, etc

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          I thought we were talking about people using having to work and pay bills as an excuse to not go out on the street and protest. You can’t do any of those things from a cell, which is what they’re risking. I don’t blame anyone for not risking that, especially if they have people who depend on them like small children.

          But sure, they can do other things like organize and write. That’s true.

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            It is an excuse, when used as a barrier to why they can’t. My point being that these rights, expectations, social norms, whatever else we might call them or list, are being slowly shaved away. There is also something to be said for that risk being one of the leashes placed upon the working class. A fear of reprisal. A very real fear, unfortunately.

            Yet this is where we are. Either we take these risks or risk everything being systematically taken away anyway while we struggle to pay ever increasing bills. A slow death from financial squeeze.

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            You can’t do any of those things from a cell

            According to whom… Perhaps not for long, but Americans still have the right to assemble peacefully and some freedom of speech left

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              but Americans still have the right to assemble peacefully and some freedom of speech left

              Sure. Tell that to all the BLM protestors that got rounded up. Or the college students protesting Israel this year for that matter.

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                So your point is that Americans are excused from protesting going straight into fascism because they are basically already there?

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              Some of us have physical disabilities that are not very visible. Prison would be a prescription for even more physical ailments.

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    Glad Project 2025 is becoming public knowledge, it’s not hyperbole, people really are going to die if Trump is re-elected. That’s not a threat, that’s an acknowledgement of what the GOP plans to do.

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    When someone tells you you that they’re planning Night of the Long Knives, you should believe them.

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    That’s hilarious they think they know what violence means, or revolution. I’m frankly surprised they can read.

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    Do what we want or we’ll murder all of you.

    There’s a reason that even Trump is distancing himself from this shitshow. These people are insane.